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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict.

Posted on 9/11/26 at 10:27 am to
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
38464 posts
Posted on 9/11/26 at 10:27 am to
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it was worth it for their country to fight Russia to the last Ukrainian on behalf of western capital


Did you get this line from a DSA meeting? Are you socialist now? Are you a Hamas supporter as well? It would really explain a lot about you.
This post was edited on 9/11/26 at 10:30 am
Posted by T1gerNate
Member since Feb 2020
4499 posts
Posted on 9/11/26 at 10:45 am to
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Are you a Hamas supporter as well? It would really explain a lot about you.


No but the fact you're wrapped around the axle about Iran and Hamas explains a lot about you buddy. Tell me what your ethnic background is without telling me. Explains your virulent Russophobia also. But the funny thing is the people who were burning down Victorial Nuland's great grandma's village weren't ethnic Russians, they were ethnic Ukranians! For some historically indefensible reason the pale diaspora blames Russia. Why? No one has ever been able to explain that one to me.
Posted by SparkyWilson
Member since May 2026
444 posts
Posted on 9/11/26 at 10:58 am to
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Galicia, not Ukraine. And I have great news for the Galician nationalists, they will get their independence from Russian Ukraine very soon.


Okay, explain the Ukrainian People's Republic that fought the Soviets until 1921. UPR encompassed most of present day Ukraine.

And Ukraine hasn't forgotten the Holodomor perpetrated by the Soviet Union.

They aren't fight Russa tooth and nail because the West wants them to. They have more than enough reason given their history with Russia.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
21247 posts
Posted on 9/11/26 at 11:08 am to
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Galicia, not Ukraine. And I have great news for the Galician nationalists, they will get their independence from Russian Ukraine very soon.


I forget whether you are still pretending that you aren't Russian, or whether you went ahead and admitted it. Which was it?
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
27801 posts
Posted on 9/11/26 at 11:09 am to
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The Russian salient north of Lyman, Donetsk region, Ukraine has collapsed.


This kind of salient has been cut off and trapped a few times of late.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
21247 posts
Posted on 9/11/26 at 11:10 am to
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Russophobia


Every American should have a healthy fear for the country that has 5,000 nuclear weapons aimed at us.
Posted by T1gerNate
Member since Feb 2020
4499 posts
Posted on 9/11/26 at 11:17 am to
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UPR encompassed most of present day Ukraine.


No the UPR (a fake "state" set up by the Germans) claimed most of present day Ukraine. It never actually controlled much of anything and it definitely never controlled eastern Ukraine. Fake revisionist history like most things about modern "Ukraine".
Posted by T1gerNate
Member since Feb 2020
4499 posts
Posted on 9/11/26 at 11:23 am to
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I forget whether you are still pretending that you aren't Russian, or whether you went ahead and admitted it. Which was it?




I'm an American. I live in Illinois.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
43232 posts
Posted on 9/11/26 at 11:29 am to
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Every American should have a healthy fear for the country that has 5,000 nuclear weapons aimed at us.


Especially a country that has indirectly and directly opposed our national interests since WWII and still are today.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
21247 posts
Posted on 9/11/26 at 11:35 am to
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I'm an American. I live in Illinois.


Congratulations on your citizenship. When did you immigrate here from Russia??
Posted by SparkyWilson
Member since May 2026
444 posts
Posted on 9/11/26 at 11:43 am to
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No the UPR (a fake "state" set up by the Germans) claimed most of present day Ukraine. It never actually controlled much of anything and it definitely never controlled eastern Ukraine. Fake revisionist history like most things about modern "Ukraine".


You have sources for that?

The UPR was not set up by the Germans; it was established in January 1918. The Germans staged a coup and set up Ukrainian State in April 1918. The UPR was restored in December 1918 by an uprising started in November 1918.

As for what they actually controlled, that's one thing, but the prior to defeat in 1921, UPR's recognized borders as of the Treaty of Brest Litovsk which encompassed most of Ukraine today.

And why are you putting Ukraine in quotations? They've been an independent nation since 1991.
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8793 posts
Posted on 9/11/26 at 11:46 am to
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Every American should have a healthy fear for the country that has 5,000 nuclear weapons aimed at us.


Y'all don't get to use the nuclear issue as a cudgel when it suits you then downplay the threat, which many of you have numerous times, when it doesn't.

Not trying to call you out specifically necessarily GOP because I can't remember if you were one of the ones regularly calling people idiots for saying "maybe we should consider the possible nuclear ramifications of our involvement", so if that doesn't apply to you GOP please disregard.
Posted by T1gerNate
Member since Feb 2020
4499 posts
Posted on 9/11/26 at 11:50 am to
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Congratulations on your citizenship. When did you immigrate here from Russia??


I understand you’re trolling but it actually irks me that you seem to believe only an ethnic Russian could have a different world view than you have. Very myopic.
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8793 posts
Posted on 9/11/26 at 11:52 am to
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Ukraine has desired independence from Russia going back at least to 1917; they finally obtained it when the Soviet Union collapsed. Them fighting this might have something to do with that.


Yeah there is a very clear history of Ukraine wanting independent statehood going back generations. I don't even like this version of Ukraine governmentally speaking, but that's just a historical fact.
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8793 posts
Posted on 9/11/26 at 11:54 am to
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I understand you’re trolling but it actually irks me that you seem to believe only an ethnic Russian could have a different world view than you have. Very myopic


He isn't really like that in my experience. We strongly disagree on a lot of things but I've found that he is one of the very pro-Ukraine posters who will wait for actual evidence before jumping to conclusions.

I don't think you're a Russian btw, but you've thrown some bones to the possibility a time or two either via content or phrasing at times.
Posted by T1gerNate
Member since Feb 2020
4499 posts
Posted on 9/11/26 at 12:01 pm to
Yea I mean that is fair. I do be trolling from time to time. It's just funny. I'm literally just a normal American guy. Somebody wants to accuse me of being Russian go ahead but I'm just not.
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
5572 posts
Posted on 9/11/26 at 1:19 pm to
That's a bunkering barge alongside and a heavy fuel slick to starboard. They may be trying to pump remaining fuel out of the 'Tatarstan' and to the barge. Which means the propulsion system no longer needs fuel and they need to deballast asap. No bueno.

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Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
5572 posts
Posted on 9/11/26 at 1:33 pm to
This is interesting. The A-50 AWACS is flying very low and slow for its normal operational altitude. This is probably because this attack was with smaller Liutyi UAVs, not FP-5 Flamingo missiles. The UAVs are much harder to pick up on radar, thus the lower altitude.

Just think what a couple of air-ro-air missiles hung on a Liutyi could do.

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Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
5572 posts
Posted on 9/11/26 at 1:59 pm to
Posted by SparkyWilson
Member since May 2026
444 posts
Posted on 9/11/26 at 2:15 pm to
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I'm an American. I live in Illinois.


Well that settles it. He's an American. No more proof needed.
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