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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict.

Posted on 6/23/26 at 8:55 am to
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
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Posted on 6/23/26 at 8:55 am to
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Well, there was the Wagner group uprising that went quite a ways with nobody doing much to stop them.

When the high pay runs out the glue that holds the army together would be gone.

Putin's war has cost Russians a lot with no real upside. That will not go unnoticed forever.


I'm really more interested in a number than a narrative. I don't expect to be exact science. Throw one out there. Percentage chance of that happening?
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
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Posted on 6/23/26 at 8:56 am to
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Really? Must have missed it.


You've missed people posting maps without a comparison from months ago? Like you can't remember even a single instance of that happening, when it's actually people posting comparisons that is the rarity
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
28801 posts
Posted on 6/23/26 at 8:57 am to
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Percentage chance of that happening?

Very very low. Russia is not facing and will not face internal revolution. They may finally change leadership at the top but the present institutional structure will remain.
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5745 posts
Posted on 6/23/26 at 9:02 am to
more details on the destroyed north Crimean railway bridge.

Ukraine's Special Operations Forces destroy bridge over North Crimean Canal – video

VALENTYNA ROMANENKO — 23 June, 15:03

Mid-range drone strike units from Ukraine's Special Operations Forces (SOF), working together with members of the SOF Resistance Movement, have destroyed a railway bridge over the North Crimean Canal in temporarily occupied Crimea near the village of Rozdolne.

Source: SOF on Facebook

Details: The SOF said that on the night of 21-22 June, its drones destroyed the bridge in a series of high-precision strikes. Both the railway track and one of the bridge spans were destroyed.

Resistance Movement operatives later reported the arrival of railway repair equipment at the site. A second phase of the operation was then launched. On the night of 22-23 June, SOF drones struck both the repair equipment and the remaining sections of the bridge.

Quote: "This was a strategic military logistics artery for the occupiers. The facility was part of a transport corridor used to move cargo, resources and military materiél in two key directions: from the territory of the Russian Federation through Crimea to supply groups of troops on the southern front, and within the peninsula itself to support the functioning of Crimea's military infrastructure...

The Special Operations Forces are continuing to disrupt the enemy's military logistics, reducing its offensive and defensive capabilities."

Ukrainska Pravda
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8438 posts
Posted on 6/23/26 at 9:03 am to
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There is a lot of truth to that. The world is more stable when Russia is not in a war and conquest phase.


I disagreed with Biden's logic on Ukraine on two fronts.

1. Aiding Ukraine past a certain point

2. If you are going to give aid, don't trickle it out and give them the premium pork from the start.

What I do think was smart was the clear desire for a controlled demolition of Russia. To me, the Biden admin clearly wanted this version of Russia to still exist, just with its balls cut off. A collapse of the Putin regime or whatever stooge comes after him creates too much uncertainty and volatility.
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
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Posted on 6/23/26 at 9:04 am to
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Very very low. Russia is not facing and will not face internal revolution. They may finally change leadership at the top but the present institutional structure will remain.


I agree. And if he agrees, why are we even discussing something that is almost certainly not going to happen?
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42768 posts
Posted on 6/23/26 at 9:10 am to
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You've missed people posting maps without a comparison from months ago? Like you can't remember even a single instance of that happening, when it's actually people posting comparisons that is the rarity


I missed everybody here doing it. That’s what you said.

Nate does it all the time. I’m guessing a few others have done it, but my point is dropping z map of the battlefield today demonstrates very little unless you can compare it with other maps especially when gains are measured in city blocks.

I would appreciate Nate’s maps or anyone else’s if they posted some comparable maps from the past.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
26938 posts
Posted on 6/23/26 at 9:27 am to
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I'm really more interested in a number than a narrative. I don't expect to be exact science. Throw one out there. Percentage chance of that happening?


I don't have a crystal ball much less one that spits out percentages.

One key factor is Putin's army being paid a lot more than Russian workers. If that dries up, morale will become dismal quickly.

Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
4645 posts
Posted on 6/23/26 at 9:30 am to
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more details on the destroyed north Crimean railway bridge.

Ukraine's Special Operations Forces destroy bridge over North Crimean Canal – video

VALENTYNA ROMANENKO — 23 June, 15:03

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Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8438 posts
Posted on 6/23/26 at 9:33 am to
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I would appreciate Nate’s maps or anyone else’s if they posted some comparable maps from the past.


You'd just find something else to bitch about
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8438 posts
Posted on 6/23/26 at 9:34 am to
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don't have a crystal ball much less one that spits out percentages.

One key factor is Putin's army being paid a lot more than Russian workers. If that dries up, morale will become dismal quickly.



Interesting that you're willing to throw that scenario out as a possibility but it seems like you have little actual conviction behind it.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42768 posts
Posted on 6/23/26 at 9:56 am to
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You'd just find something else to bitch about


Signed the Contrarian
Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
11249 posts
Posted on 6/23/26 at 10:18 am to
Let's say the Ukrainian nonsense achieves ww3 status. Should the US be on the side of the Russians who have shown constraint, or should the US be on the side of the Nazi's and Euro globalists that are working hard to expand the conflict.

I think I dislike the Nazi's and Euro globalists more.
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5745 posts
Posted on 6/23/26 at 10:27 am to
" One thing that stands out compared to similar bridge strikes is the attack profile.

Instead of simply hitting the bridge deck from above, the drone operators flew their drones in from the side, targeting both the supports and the structure itself"

Definitely seems more effective than just punching holes in the deck. Lesson learned for the temporary Kerch bridge.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
26938 posts
Posted on 6/23/26 at 10:37 am to
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I think I dislike the Nazi's and Euro globalists more.


What Nazis and who did they invade this time.

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