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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict.

Posted on 2/18/26 at 10:40 pm to
Posted by Leopold
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Posted on 2/18/26 at 10:40 pm to
Ok, so here we go.

T1gerNate has said that we are witnessing the fall of the Donbas, and I've said I tend to believe him . So, let's say that this prognostication is in the ballpark of being right, and that it takes about 2 more years to take the Donbas. Is it worth it?

By my estimation, that's anywhere from 700k to 1.2M more casualties for the Russians, 2 years of economic strife and low oil prices, and all of the other stuff. This is assuming, of course, that there is no revolution in Russia and Vlad doesn't find a rope around his neck. Is that worth taking the remainder of the Donbas, which, by my math, is about 2k kilometers squared, or about the size of metro Oklahoma City?

So, assuming that the Russians actually do take the Donbas, is it worth it?

My guess is no, but it's going to take a while for us to get an solid answer, if ever.
This post was edited on 2/18/26 at 11:41 pm
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
4329 posts
Posted on 2/19/26 at 2:00 am to
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The reason why Putin restricted Russians' access to Telegram has become known (and it will be completely shut down from April 1) — Russian military bloggers and Telegram channels are spreading information that due to critical needs on the Ukrainian fronts, Putin is preparing to announce a large military mobilization - a forced conscription.

I would not bet against the historic lack of agency of the Russian population, but if they did it in 1917, anything's possible. At least Putin isn't taking any chances and is trying to shut down any remaining social media.

But as always, if you read the Comments section, you will find some jewels -
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telegram is centralized, it's the briar app he needs to worry about, as it's specifically designed for local coordination over bluetooth

Whoa. Ok, I'm showing my minimalist IT skills here, but Holy shite. This Briar App is:

- Free and open source;
- Connects directly with nearby contacts, even without Internet;
- Stores messages securely on user's device, not in the cloud; and
- Has peer-to-peer encrypted messaging and forums.

Yeah, "and forums".

As all the IT experts I know are now at soccer practice or doing their geometry homework, if anyone on this thread knows anything about this app, please chirp up.
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 2/19/26 at 3:07 am to
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Pskov region, Russia

More footage of the fire at the oil depot in Velikiye Luki after the attack by drones tonight.





Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 2/19/26 at 3:13 am to
Reminds us of another view of beautiful Russia from two years ago. Great for screen shots -


Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 2/19/26 at 3:14 am to
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But percentages don’t tell you anything. They all equal 100%. The relevant numbers is the amount of the revenues Russia is bringing in compared to four years ago.


Exactly. The key number in the percentages is that two customers are now over 80% of their market. So they have way less leverage or room for negotiation.

The key number is that in 2019 Russian oil and gas exports were $186 billion. In 2025 they were about $100 billion. 2026 is forecast in the range of $80-$85 billion.

What is saving their arse is gold. That price has tripled since Covid. And gold exports are up to something like $45 billion. That's not plugging the entire oil and gas shortfall, but it's helping keep them afloat.
Posted by CitizenK
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Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 2/19/26 at 6:58 am to
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The key number is that in 2019 Russian oil and gas exports were $186 billion. In 2025 they were about $100 billion. 2026 is forecast in the range of $80-$85 billion.


Gross sales does not equal profit from sales. Oil doesn't flow for free. They were losing money during Covid at with sales at $30 per barrel. Here in the US a number of oil companies went bankrupt or were forced to sell out to majors. I could go buy goods at retail and then carry them to a pawn shop to sell at a loss to get cash flow.
Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 2/19/26 at 7:54 am to
Russian capital investment back into their production is basically zero. So their numbers are 300,000 bpd below their OPEC+ allotment, and falling. They will soon have lost 1 million bpd which is one reason Trump is trying to bring Venezuela back online to keep prices low.
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8364 posts
Posted on 2/19/26 at 8:26 am to
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Stores messages securely on user's device, not in the cloud; and
- Has peer-to-peer encrypted messaging and forums.



A lot of apps claim this and governments, especially ours, are consistently able to crack them
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134870 posts
Posted on 2/19/26 at 9:26 am to
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Pskov region, Russia
Pskov was one of the ancient capitals of the land of Rus over a thousand years ago..

Its kremlin fortifications are still standing (Kremlim means fortress or fort in Russian).

I've walked along the top of the stone walls of the Pskov kremlin during a work assignment there.
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
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Posted on 2/19/26 at 9:28 am to
The Z cringe factory is open for business

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Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
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Posted on 2/19/26 at 10:01 am to
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
15671 posts
Posted on 2/19/26 at 10:05 am to
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Russian capital investment back into their production is basically zero. So their numbers are 300,000 bpd below their OPEC+ allotment, and falling. They will soon have lost 1 million bpd which is one reason Trump is trying to bring Venezuela back online to keep prices low.


Not just capital investment but consumables and maintenance costs. There are other oilfields coming online. Venezuelan crude doesn't compete with Russian, it competes with Canadian. US companies lost billions thanks to Chavez, and that includes drilling contractor who lost a ton of money. It memory serves me correcting. Helmerlich and Payne alone had around 175 rigs in Venezuela and wasn't paid by PDVSA for over a year before contracts canceled. Russia and China took over those activities and also fields.
Posted by CitizenK
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Posted on 2/19/26 at 10:20 am to
Posted by LARancher1991
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2015
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Posted on 2/19/26 at 10:24 am to
The answer is no in the western mindset but yes in the Russian one. I also don't think this war ends even if the Donbas region is taken.
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
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Posted on 2/19/26 at 10:26 am to
The Russian catering business is starting to crack. That's a real death knell for the economy.

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Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
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Posted on 2/19/26 at 10:28 am to
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The answer is no in the western mindset but yes in the Russian one. I also don't think this war ends even if the Donbas region is taken.


A recent EU intelligence report said Russia's objectives are to capture the Donbas, Remove the Z government, and have Ukraine become a neutral buffer state between them and NATO.

So yeah, even if they got the Donbas tomorrow the other two will still be in flux.
Posted by Leopold
Columbia
Member since Sep 2013
2298 posts
Posted on 2/19/26 at 10:58 am to
How is this cringe?
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 2/19/26 at 11:33 am to
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A lot of apps claim this and governments, especially ours, are consistently able to crack them

First, we aren't talking about the US government, are we?

Secondly, show us your sources for this nonsense. Or is it just more of your baseless drive-by sniping. Contrariness is not cool, it just makes you look stupid. Accurately stupid.
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8364 posts
Posted on 2/19/26 at 12:33 pm to
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First, we aren't talking about the US government, are we?


I forgot that we are in mixed company, yes the US government.

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Secondly, show us your sources for this nonsense. Or is it just more of your baseless drive-by sniping. Contrariness is not cool, it just makes you look stupid. Accurately stupid


It's pretty common knowledge that there are methods of hacking at least some of these E2E platforms. For instance, Tucker aka Cucker Qatarlson famously had his hacked by the state department before his trip to Russia in the process of planning it, then was heavily "advised" not to go. Not leaked, they were monitoring his app.

As for your tween girl-esque tone, I take no offense to it coming from someone who, in addition to posting leftist drivel and celebrating videos of deaths like a sociopath, tries to weaponize pedophilia accusations when Trump pisses you off and then goes radio silent on them when it looks like he is going to behave in a way that's friendly to Ukraine. Truly despicable.

Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8364 posts
Posted on 2/19/26 at 12:37 pm to
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How is this cringe?


Well first off let's consider the context that he has nothing to prove to anyone. I don't even like the guy and can acknowledge that he has shown significant resolve and has the absolute moral high ground in his situation.

So he goes into the gutter on this Trump-ian rant "the history doesn't matter, but I'm the best at history and I've been all sorts of places and you haven't" sounds like a Trump line in some obscure feud with a low level Democrat. So yeah, not a big deal but I think it's pretty cringe. Z should talk less because opening your mouth too much on unimportant mud slinging like this does you no good.
This post was edited on 2/19/26 at 12:39 pm
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