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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict.

Posted on 12/10/25 at 9:20 pm to
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
3537 posts
Posted on 12/10/25 at 9:20 pm to
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Russia is trying to accomplish the take over of the four oblasts through diplomatic means because they have been unable to do it on the battlefield. They are also facing economic issues as well as manpower issues.

Why Trump is trying to bail out Putin makes no sense.
His negotiating tactics have put tgd US on Russia’s side.


It makes sense to some of us... he owes them, bigly, for decades of loans when he was too toxic for anybody else to bother with... and, by golly, he likes them, he just really, really likes them! He wants to be the Putin of the Americas. And he's determined to cede Europe to Putin...

Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
7835 posts
Posted on 12/10/25 at 9:25 pm to
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It's best just to walk past the crazy guy yelling outside the CVS...


Told y'all in the old thread to do that with JB
Posted by Chromdome35
Fast lane, behind a slow driver
Member since Nov 2010
7950 posts
Posted on 12/10/25 at 9:27 pm to
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It's best just to walk past the crazy guy yelling outside the CVS...


Thank you, I actually laughed at this.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
14076 posts
Posted on 12/10/25 at 9:31 pm to
While Crimea is still a very important area to hold, it is not as significant to the entire Black Sea as it once was. For Ukraine, the Kinburn Spit is vital to take as well as the east bank of the Dnipro River. Kherson and its port is vital to trade as well as shipbuilding which once thrived there.
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
3537 posts
Posted on 12/10/25 at 9:37 pm to
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Eh, I think it's fair to ask if people who are so for this war continuing because they want Russia weaker have really thought much about the human cost and what the day to day is like for the people actually living it.


Would those be the same people in Ukraine posters mock for going out to discos and otherwise living as normal as they can lives all through this?
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
3537 posts
Posted on 12/10/25 at 9:43 pm to
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I don't think there is anything particularly unreasonable from the Ukrainians nor the Russians. Neither side feel they are losing and from a certain perspective, they are both correct.


Everything from the Russian side is unreasonable!
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
3537 posts
Posted on 12/10/25 at 10:07 pm to
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quote:
It's best just to walk past the crazy guy yelling outside the CVS...


Told y'all in the old thread to do that with JB


For the most part I did... his sidekick account was too dumb not to screw with for laughs, I admit
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
3537 posts
Posted on 12/10/25 at 11:27 pm to
"People think that wars end when the winners win. No, wars end when one side quits and becomes the losers."
- Sarah Paine
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
3335 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 2:13 am to
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"People think that wars end when the winners win. No, wars end when one side quits and becomes the losers."
- Sarah Paine


This war is existential on the one side for the Ukrainian people as a whole but on the other side, for only Putin on a personal level. Russia is one man away from officially losing.

It will come from the FSB and there will not be a plan to continue the war after it's done.
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
3335 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 2:20 am to
Money talks... demands for Ukrainian capitulation walk.



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Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
3335 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 2:27 am to
More reality from Igor Girkin. Remember, the reason he is still breathing and incredibly allowed to communicate from prison is that he has FSB protection. These are the guys that Putin thinks about every day.

And every night.

quote:

"In just over two months, it will be the fourth anniversary of the start of the Special Military Operation. During this time, we not only failed to liberate all of Novorossiya and force them to surrender, but we also couldn't even completely clear Donbass of the enemy.

In the fourth year of the war, the enemy began to strike at the deepest rear of the Russian Federation, at its economic and infrastructure objects, which also does not indicate that we are winning.

Yes, now in the frontline reports, it often happens that we liberated another populated area and even achieved success in taking several cities, which we stormed for up to a year and a half (in this case, I'm talking about Volchansk). However, in general, the front line has moved westward by a maximum of several dozen kilometers, and there's no talk of hundreds of kilometers.

The enemy maintains the integrity of the front, and the collapse of his army is not happening. Therefore, it's unfortunately impossible to say that victory has already been achieved or that it's very close."

-Russian Igor Girkin



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Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
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Posted on 12/11/25 at 3:05 am to
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Major nitrogen fertilizer plant. Spelled 'Acron'.


Almost all the way to St. Petersburg.

Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
3335 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 3:09 am to
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- drones of the Security Service of Ukraine (SBU) have halted the operation of a Russian oil production platform in the Caspian Sea.

Long-range drones from the SBU’s “Alfa” Special Operations Center struck the Filanovsky offshore oil platform, which belongs to the “Lukoil-Nizhevolzhneft” company.

This is the first time Ukraine has damaged Russian oil-production infrastructure in the Caspian Sea.

At least four direct hits on the offshore platform were recorded. As a result of the strike, oil and gas extraction from more than 20 wells serviced by the platform has been stopped.
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
40770 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 5:56 am to
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It's best just to walk past the crazy guy yelling outside the CVS...


Lots of mirrors outside your local CVS?
Posted by Hateradedrink
Member since May 2023
4045 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 7:01 am to
I’m so glad trump ended this war on day 1
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
26257 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 7:48 am to
Gen. Dwight D. Eisenhower was the first NATO supreme allied commander. Shortly after assuming that post, he wrote these words in February 1951:

“If in 10 years, all American troops stationed in Europe for national defense purposes have not been returned to the United States, then this whole project [NATO] will have failed.”


Eisenhower was a very wise man. The US needs to get out of Europe and Nato.
This post was edited on 12/11/25 at 7:49 am
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
14076 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 7:49 am to
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I’m so glad trump ended this war on day 1


Any sane well informed person should have known that this was campaign rhetoric aimed to win votes from Tucker's Stupid Phuckers et al, regardless whether you supported Trump or not.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
14076 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 7:55 am to
One thing abundantly obvious is that Russia still has the Cold War mindset of combat and failed to implement anything it learned from the Coalition Forces in Desert Storm which devastated a Soviet Military Doctrine army.
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
26257 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 7:59 am to
He is a leftist Trump hater. This thread is full of them.
This post was edited on 12/11/25 at 8:00 am
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
41914 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 8:15 am to
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Eisenhower was a very wise man. The US needs to get out of Europe and Nato.


Even though NATO has kept the peace for about 60 years?

And over the we of those 60 years the United States has been the super power and the most prosperous nation in history.

NATO help stymie the Commies in Eastern Europe and later bring those eastern countries that were occupied under their umbrella.
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