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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict.
Posted on 12/8/25 at 3:37 pm to doubleb
Posted on 12/8/25 at 3:37 pm to doubleb
Bait for what?
We have someone who has a psuedo-historical "colonizer map" as his profile picture who spams the thread with pro-Ukranian propaganda, and then praises Trump when it looks like he will help Ukraine and then calls him a pedo the next day when Trump backs off it
I don't think that statement you replied to applies to you, FWIW, I think you genuinely care about this issue and I just disagree with you on it. But we've got a few legitimate radical nutjobs in here.
JB was a legitimate radical nutjob on the other side of the coin.
We have someone who has a psuedo-historical "colonizer map" as his profile picture who spams the thread with pro-Ukranian propaganda, and then praises Trump when it looks like he will help Ukraine and then calls him a pedo the next day when Trump backs off it
I don't think that statement you replied to applies to you, FWIW, I think you genuinely care about this issue and I just disagree with you on it. But we've got a few legitimate radical nutjobs in here.
JB was a legitimate radical nutjob on the other side of the coin.
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Posted on 12/8/25 at 3:45 pm to VolSquatch
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JB was a legitimate radical nutjob on the other side of the coin.
You misspelled “professional”.
Posted on 12/8/25 at 4:30 pm to VolSquatch
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This line of thinking can be used to excuse Russian behavior as well, which I don't think we want to do.
That's exactly what we want to do. Jesus, Vol.
The president and the overwhelming majority of people running that country are not only from the USSR's KGB and they have said repeatedly that not only is the fall of the Soviet Union the single greatest tragedy of the twentieth century but they're plan is to restore it. Goddamn, people.
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On one hand some of yall say Ukraine was the actual braintrust of the USSR, then on the other say Russia's stain on Ukraine is Ukraine's actual problem.
I don't know about overall 'braintrust' but, yeah, the Russians put their rocket programs largely in the Jkraine, probably for the same reasons we put ours in places like Texas and Florida, the weather and other reasons.
But, yeah, `I'd say the overwhelming majority of their problems right now are due to the invasion and even some of the ones from beforehand came from Soviet style cultural issues. Not all that shocking, really.
Posted on 12/8/25 at 5:04 pm to Coeur du Tigre
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So much for the TACO Mafia's attempt at stealing this money.
But you are ok with the EU mafia stealing it.
Posted on 12/8/25 at 6:01 pm to AU86
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But you are ok with the EU mafia stealing it.
Russia invaded a sovereign nation and if it takes the rest of the world to seize their
assets to repair the damage they have done then so be it.
Steal? I say seize their assets to make Ukraine whole.
This post was edited on 12/8/25 at 7:09 pm
Posted on 12/8/25 at 7:08 pm to Leopold
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I don't know about overall 'braintrust' but, yeah, the Russians put their rocket programs largely in the Jkraine, probably for the same reasons we put ours in places like Texas and Florida, the weather and other reasons.
Houston Space Center because LBJ home state. Florida for the launches and a lot of testing. A shitton near Bay St. Louis and of course Michaud. Then there is the industry around it in SoCal. Seal Beach Blvd is so fricking wide, not for the traffic but for Atlas rockets to be loaded onto ocean going barges as the Seal Beach Naval Weapons Depot, in Orange County, CA. The there is the Redstone Arsenal in Huntsville, AL and why so many rocket companies in the area.
I'm fairly certain a lof of the USSR program was in Kazahkstan.
Universities in Leningrad, now St. Petersburg, and Kviv, now Kyiv were the Soviet equivalent of MIT and CalTech.
Posted on 12/8/25 at 8:12 pm to Leopold
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This line of thinking can be used to excuse Russian behavior as well, which I don't think we want to do.
That's exactly what we want to do. Jesus, Vol.
You want to excuse Russian behavior?
JB take over your account?
Posted on 12/8/25 at 8:20 pm to doubleb
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make Ukraine whole
That's 1
Posted on 12/8/25 at 8:44 pm to VolSquatch
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That's 1
Two to go!
Posted on 12/8/25 at 9:25 pm to VolSquatch
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You want to excuse Russian behavior?
JB take over your account
LOL I'll give you that one. I see the difference.
But still, it does explain why the Russians act the way they do and why they're as cruel as they do. So I don't think it is an excuse, because they, for one, aren't going to use it as one. It's just a good, practical explanation.
Posted on 12/8/25 at 10:23 pm to Leopold
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it does explain why the Russians act the way they do
Just reading Russian history one can realize that they just don't think like the West at all. There is way too much Mongol and Tatar influence in their thought process. When I asked a Russian biz friend about this, he agreed, and is the one who added the Tatars being an influencing factor.
Posted on 12/9/25 at 12:00 am to CitizenK
Ok, let's start off the day with a joke. A short joke.
They evidently cut off his content as well.
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If tweet fails to load, click here. They evidently cut off his content as well.
Posted on 12/9/25 at 12:05 am to Coeur du Tigre
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They also, as you’ve noted, fail to understand America’s political landscape.
Courage in leadership. Compare this with TACO.
Posted on 12/9/25 at 7:41 am to doubleb
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Steal? I say seize their assets to make Ukraine whole.
More emotional drivel from you. You sure you aren't grandma instead of grandpa?
What percentage disappears off the top when it is ran through the EU bureaucracy? An institution that is known for creating slush funds that corrupt politicians dip into or create "special projects". And then it gets to Ukraine: not exactly the beacon of anti-corruption/honesty.
The Ukrainian people are going to get screwed again. But hey the politicians will get rich off of it.
This post was edited on 12/9/25 at 7:53 am
Posted on 12/9/25 at 7:50 am to Coeur du Tigre
Tim Pool, once the darling of the far left
Posted on 12/9/25 at 8:17 am to AU86
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The Ukrainian people are going to get screwed again. But hey the politicians will get rich off of it.
Since when did you start worrying about the Ukrainian people?
Posted on 12/9/25 at 8:29 am to doubleb
I have been for four years. Emotional idiots like you are the ones that want this disaster and suffering to continue.
Freedom!! Honor!! Ukraine can never surrender!!! As long as I am over here and someone else is doing the fighting or suffering.
You aren't living in the middle of it. You haven't lost family members. You haven't lost your home. But you damn sure are for the killing and destruction to continue. Down to the very last Ukrainian.
Get your arse over there and live what those people are going through and then come back and tell us how great things are.
You keyboard warriors are nothing but hypocrites. Just because you hated the Soviet Union and still fight the cold war.
Freedom!! Honor!! Ukraine can never surrender!!! As long as I am over here and someone else is doing the fighting or suffering.
You aren't living in the middle of it. You haven't lost family members. You haven't lost your home. But you damn sure are for the killing and destruction to continue. Down to the very last Ukrainian.
Get your arse over there and live what those people are going through and then come back and tell us how great things are.
You keyboard warriors are nothing but hypocrites. Just because you hated the Soviet Union and still fight the cold war.
This post was edited on 12/9/25 at 8:35 am
Posted on 12/9/25 at 8:44 am to Coeur du Tigre
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If tweet fails to load, click here. Hey Cope.
That one is especially for you.
Posted on 12/9/25 at 10:17 am to doubleb
Volodymyr Zelenskyy / ????????? ??????????
@ZelenskyyUa
Today, we already discussed with our negotiating team the results of yesterday’s work in London, which was conducted at the level of the National Security Advisors of our European partners. This was agreed upon yesterday at the leaders' level.
We are working very actively on all components of potential steps toward ending the war. The Ukrainian and European components are now more developed, and we are ready to present them to our partners in the U.S. Together with the American side, we expect to swiftly make the potential steps as doable as possible.
We are committed to a real peace and remain in constant contact with the United States. And, as our partners in the negotiating teams rightly note, everything depends on whether Russia is ready to take effective steps to stop the bloodshed and prevent the war from reigniting. In the near future, we will be ready to send the refined documents to the United States. Glory to Ukraine!
9:02 AM · Dec 9, 2025
@ZelenskyyUa
Today, we already discussed with our negotiating team the results of yesterday’s work in London, which was conducted at the level of the National Security Advisors of our European partners. This was agreed upon yesterday at the leaders' level.
We are working very actively on all components of potential steps toward ending the war. The Ukrainian and European components are now more developed, and we are ready to present them to our partners in the U.S. Together with the American side, we expect to swiftly make the potential steps as doable as possible.
We are committed to a real peace and remain in constant contact with the United States. And, as our partners in the negotiating teams rightly note, everything depends on whether Russia is ready to take effective steps to stop the bloodshed and prevent the war from reigniting. In the near future, we will be ready to send the refined documents to the United States. Glory to Ukraine!
9:02 AM · Dec 9, 2025
Posted on 12/9/25 at 11:51 am to cypher
From the FAFO Files:
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Three Russian soldiers were sentenced to up to 12 years in prison on Monday for torturing and killing Russell Bentley, a 63-year-old US national who had volunteered to fight for Russia against Ukraine. Bentley went missing in April 2024 near Russian-controlled Donetsk after his wife said he had gone out in the aftermath of shelling by Ukrainian forces. Investigators said the soldiers beat and tortured him to death, then tried to hide the crime by blowing up his body in a car. A military court in Donetsk gave two soldiers 12-year sentences and a third 11 years. The case embarrassed Moscow – which has lured foreigners to fight on its side – while attracting derision from pro-Ukrainian observers about the treatment westerners could expect if they volunteered to fight for the Kremlin. Russian authorities tried to portray it as a tragic one-off. Nicknamed the “Donbas Cowboy”, Bentley was featured in a 2022 Rolling Stone article about his transformation from Texas leftist to “pro-Putin propagandist”, and, prior to the 2022 invasion, in Shaun Walker’s 2015 Guardian article about anti-Ukrainian rebels in the Donbas. He had obtained Russian citizenship and had done some work for the Russian state-controlled Sputnik news service. The court heard that the soldiers found Bentley near a military repairs facility preparing to film the aftermath of the Ukrainian attack. They disregarded his explanation that he was a journalist, put a sack over his head, and beat and tortured him to death, it said. A photograph published in some Russian media on Monday showed him sitting on a bed next to an assault rifle, with a pro-Russian flag, a souvenir from Texas and a bust of Vladimir Lenin.
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