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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict.
Posted on 12/8/25 at 1:54 am to Coeur du Tigre
Posted on 12/8/25 at 1:54 am to Coeur du Tigre
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Russia is prepared to take in millions of labour migrants from India [to replace the male population wiped out in the “SVO”], according to First Deputy Prime Minister Denis Manturov following the Russia–India summit in New Delhi.
He said the country is ready to accept an unlimited number of Indians, noting that the manufacturing sector alone needs at least 800,000 additional workers on top of existing numbers. He added that there is significant demand in other sectors as well, including around 1.5 million people for trade, as well as large requirements in services and construction.
Normally this would be fun as the jokes would write themselves... convenience stores, motels and all the places in top Russian schools... but we know these don't exist in Russia. So what does Putin need 800,000 Indian workers for? Mimicking the EU-style mongrelization? Or maybe...
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Yeah, they begin as migrant laborers in russia, then suddenly without their knowledge they've signed up for some light work in a neighboring country. The last thing they'll hear is the high pitch noise getting closer.
And yeah, what's the Hindi term for "human trafficking"?
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Posted on 12/8/25 at 2:03 am to Coeur du Tigre
Speaking of high windows... He sort of looks suicidal to me.
Should have paid the lady Bashar... You can't stiff the whores in Moscow like you used to in Damascus.
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Posted on 12/8/25 at 3:47 am to Coeur du Tigre
Friends who have been to Indian manufacturing plants tell me that there are 100 barefoot workers walking around where there are acid spills.
Note that the Union Carbide Bhopal incident was in a plant actually majority owned by the Indian government. Union Carbide had the same process in South Charleston WV with nary a problem.
To sum things up, India doesn't give two shiites about its lower castes of citizens, and Russia will treat them accordingly. Nary a one of these will have enough brain power to operate a cash register much less own a donut shop or convenience store.
Note that the Union Carbide Bhopal incident was in a plant actually majority owned by the Indian government. Union Carbide had the same process in South Charleston WV with nary a problem.
To sum things up, India doesn't give two shiites about its lower castes of citizens, and Russia will treat them accordingly. Nary a one of these will have enough brain power to operate a cash register much less own a donut shop or convenience store.
Posted on 12/8/25 at 6:11 am to Coeur du Tigre
Posted on 12/8/25 at 6:29 am to cypher
some local putin bros are pitching in
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After a weekend of Russian missile attacks on Ukraine's cities, today's Monday morning Russian disinformation campaign is focused on trying to convince audiences that Ukraine refuses to participate in negotiations.
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After a weekend of Russian missile attacks on Ukraine's cities, today's Monday morning Russian disinformation campaign is focused on trying to convince audiences that Ukraine refuses to participate in negotiations.
Posted on 12/8/25 at 7:32 am to cypher
Continuing Russian advances across multiple directions confirmed by ISW
Siversk
Hulyaipole
Kostyantynivka
Lyman
Kupyansk
Siversk
Hulyaipole
Kostyantynivka
Lyman
Kupyansk
Posted on 12/8/25 at 8:44 am to T1gerNate
The Kupyansk map is a clear example of something we discussed a while back. We need to differentiate the Ukrainian counteroffensive in 2022 to current Ukrainian counteroffensives in order to really get much out of these current maps. Because of all the blue it really clouds anything Ukraine has done in the past month there.
Posted on 12/8/25 at 8:59 am to VolSquatch
What is basically going on are ebb and flows along the fronts. Russia and Ukraine both are making small gains with Russia gaining the most.
Russian gains aren't steady and they don’t come cheap. There aren’t any breakthroughs or big tactical victories.
Ukraine has been doing very little to regain lost territories. They have been struggling to hold onto what they have.
Ukraine’s successes have been mostly in their attacks on war related industries. Russia had been successful at disrupting Ukraine’s power grids.
This war is a long way from a military solution.
Russian gains aren't steady and they don’t come cheap. There aren’t any breakthroughs or big tactical victories.
Ukraine has been doing very little to regain lost territories. They have been struggling to hold onto what they have.
Ukraine’s successes have been mostly in their attacks on war related industries. Russia had been successful at disrupting Ukraine’s power grids.
This war is a long way from a military solution.
Posted on 12/8/25 at 9:03 am to Coeur du Tigre
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If tweet fails to load, click here. That is Good. Maybe they will all go to Russia instead of invading the US.
Can we send the ones that are already here to Russia?
Up vote for Cope.
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Posted on 12/8/25 at 9:11 am to doubleb
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Ukraine’s successes have been mostly in their attacks on war related industries. Russia had been successful at disrupting Ukraine’s power grids.
Ukraine knows it will eventually lose to Russia militarily so they are attacking their ability to wage war.
Russia know it will take who knows how long to actually beat Ukraine militarily even though they at least think they are capable of it in the long run, so they want to make life as hard as possible for Ukrainians at home so that the population becomes more open to tapping out.
Both are giving their best options (when they both only have bad ones) a shot and seeing what things look like a month, 6 months, a year from now.
That's why I've tried to keep it to what I think will happen and not speak in absolutes. Anyone who says they know is full of it.
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Posted on 12/8/25 at 9:14 am to AU86
That is what I've been talking about a bit lately. Russia and Ukraine will become less and less Russian and Ukrainian as a result of this war. Migrants will flood in because of necessity. The long term prospects of migrants being a large voting bloc in a hostile, nuclear armed, unstable country with bleak economic prospects like Russia is honestly pretty concerning.
Posted on 12/8/25 at 9:15 am to VolSquatch
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Anyone who says they know is full of it.
You are right.
But I still maintain that when it’s all said and done there will not be a winner. There will be a loser and a bigger loser.
Posted on 12/8/25 at 9:45 am to VolSquatch
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The long term prospects of migrants being a large voting bloc in a hostile, nuclear armed, unstable country with bleak economic prospects like Russia is honestly pretty concerning.
At the rate that we are currently seeing why worry about Iran getting nukes? The goat frickers are going to take over a couple of European nations that already have nukes much faster.
Especially GB. They are becoming a huge problem here also. Look at Minnesota. Texas is being invaded by them also.
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Posted on 12/8/25 at 10:29 am to VolSquatch
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large voting bloc
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Russia
Posted on 12/8/25 at 11:35 am to No Colors
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large voting bloc
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Russia
Good point
And Ukraine might just not have elections anymore either so
Posted on 12/8/25 at 1:03 pm to No Colors
Leadership, EU style.
So much for the TACO Mafia's attempt at stealing this money... And so much for Orban's demands to give him special dispensation against the Ru oil sanctions.
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BREAKING: Brussels has unlocked a legal mechanism allowing indefinite freezing of Russian central bank assets without unanimous EU consent—bypassing any Hungarian veto—by citing “economic disturbances caused by Russia’s war on Ukraine.” The European Commission now proposes transferring €210bn to Kyiv in 2026-27, including €140bn directly from frozen Russian funds at Euroclear plus €25bn from other European accounts, with €115bn earmarked for defence industry buildup and the remaining €95bn to repay prior G7 loans and cover Ukraine’s budget needs.
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Brussels hasn’t “confiscated” €210bn yet: the new plan keeps Russian central bank assets frozen longer and uses them as backing for big loans to Ukraine, mostly via a proposed €140bn “reparations loan,” but outright seizure remains legally and politically contested.
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the [EU] bloc just flipped the script on Putin, and its about damn time. Kyrylo Shevchenko's breaking news nails the shift, with the Commission invoking Article 122 of the EU treaties to lock down those frozen Russian central bank assets indefinitely, no more begging for unanimous votes every six months that let Hungary play spoiler. They're citing Russia's war as straight up economic sabotage, triggering qualified majority decisions that sidestep Orban's veto like its yesterday's headache. This isn't some half measure; it's the green light for outright repurposing, kicking off what everyone knows is confiscation with a fancy reparations bow.
Dig into the meat: over 210 billion euros in Russian sovereign dough iced across Europe since the invasion, with 185 billion parked at Euroclear in Belgium alone, plus another 25 billion scattered in other accounts that Brussels wont even name to keep the Kremlins spies guessing.
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Germany stepped up huge, with Chancellor Merz pledging a quarter of the tab to soothe Belgium's jitters about blowback, proving Berlins not just talking tough anymore. Sure, Moscow's howling theft, with Lavrov warning of tit for tat that'll make the West rue the day, but lets call bullshite: the European Court of Human Rights already slammed Russia with full liability for the carnage since Crimea, tallying damages in the trillions when you factor in shattered lives and stolen futures.
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This isn't piracy; its poetic justice, turning Putin's war chest against him while shielding the eurozone from full seizure risks that spooked the suits in 2022. Belgium pushed back hard on the initial 90 billion loan float last week, fretting legal landmines and Russian revenge, but this workaround, hashed out in frantic huddles with von der Leyen, neuters that noise and locks in the flow. The beauty? It forces the hand on unity, with the December 18 summit looming as the make or break where leaders vote this through... Critics whine about market chills or precedent for rogue states, but that's fearmongering from the same crowd that greenlit Nord Stream. Russia gambled its vault on aggression and lost; now the bill comes due, and Europe's collecting with interest. This is how you end wars: make the aggressor pay.
Posted on 12/8/25 at 1:08 pm to Coeur du Tigre
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So what does Putin need 800,000 Indian workers for?
This is reason 10,000 that we need to stop using the words 'Russia' and 'Putin' interchangeably.
Putin does not think of Russia's well-being. Russia is a vessel state of his that he is using to make a bid for world control. This sounds extreme, but it's not. If he's able to control the President of the United States, and he's having some success on that for sure, then he is making a play for world domination.
Posted on 12/8/25 at 1:12 pm to VolSquatch
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Anything bad about Ukraine is actually Russia's fault"
Maybe Ukraine is actually a bit more Russian than some of y'all were letting on......
Oh, it's very Russian. No doubt about that.
I've said to multiple people that the Ukrainian corruption problems are left over from the damned Russian commies a couple of generations ago, and, well, an invading army that has picked the biggest fight of the current century does create a number of problems for a country, doesn't it?
Posted on 12/8/25 at 2:24 pm to Leopold
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've said to multiple people that the Ukrainian corruption problems are left over from the damned Russian commies a couple of generations ago
This line of thinking can be used to excuse Russian behavior as well, which I don't think we want to do.
On one hand some of yall say Ukraine was the actual braintrust of the USSR, then on the other say Russia's stain on Ukraine is Ukraine's actual problem. I don't really believe its both, personally.
I don't think "Ukraine does bad things and has some questionable behavior, but regardless sure as shite aren't as bad as the Russians" should be controversial, but I guess when you have people who are functionally if not actual Ukrainian nationalists in the thread I should lower my expectations.
Posted on 12/8/25 at 2:37 pm to VolSquatch
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I don't think "Ukraine does bad things and has some questionable behavior, but regardless sure as shite aren't as bad as the Russians" should be controversial, but I guess when you have people who are functionally if not actual Ukrainian nationalists in the thread I should lower my expectations.
Bait alert.
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