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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict.

Posted on 9/25/25 at 9:36 am to
Posted by doubleb
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Posted on 9/25/25 at 9:36 am to
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Just one more Ukranian offensive to stop the Russian spread. It'll work this time, we promise.


I don’t know if another Ukrainian offensive would work, but it’s a fact that the Ukrainians have pulled off two very successful offenses already.

Posted by doubleb
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Posted on 9/25/25 at 9:41 am to
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Why won't anyone loan Russia money?


On a much smaller scale many Americans go in debt to purchase a home. They rsjr oug mortgages.

Why go in debt? To improve your quality of life,
Why do lenders list them money? They know they will be paid back with interest.

Russia is mostly pay as they go it seems. No debt, but less quality of life improvements. Why is that? They can’t be trusted.
Posted by doubleb
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Posted on 9/25/25 at 9:51 am to
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Speaking to Azov Battalion in 2016, Obama would have been President


Ftom what I found on line Obama was POTUS, but Trump had already won the 2016 election so I don’t understand how Hillary, McCain, and Graham could have sttzz attacked Russia.[

quote]Both had/have an outsized influence on politics. Hard to say exactly.[/quote]

It’s not hard to say. We know that Russia was not attacked, There was never a serious attempt for the US to put boots on the ground. Little was done by the US. We also know Russia launched a huge attack on Ukraine in 2022.
Posted by AU86
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Posted on 9/25/25 at 10:22 am to
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Mearsheimer backs up my last post. He must be reading my posts also.

Trump telling Europe and Z to put up. When they don't and the inevitable happens Trump can wash his hands.

Boomercons and DSA's are eating it up. Suckers.
This post was edited on 9/25/25 at 10:23 am
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 9/25/25 at 10:23 am to
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Why won't anyone loan Russia money?
Maybe lenders remember what happened in 1998 when Russia defaulted on its sovereign debt.

I was working in Moscow then and on a Sunday night Yeltsin went on national TV to tell the world the Russian Central Bank would no longer support the value of the ruble and that all Russian sovereign debt payments were being "deferred." Permanently differed, it turned out.

On Monday morning most big banks were technically insolvent since about 40% of their investment assets were in Russian bonds. And since that debt became worthless, banks had negative capital overnight.

The ruble, which had been trading at 6 rubles to the U.S. dollar on Sunday began trading at 16 rubles to the dollar on Monday morning. Imagine the panic if in the U.S. the dollar lost 2/3 of its value overnight. It would be like a loaf of bread that cost $4 on Sunday cost $12 on Monday.

Crowds outside of Moscow banks wanting to withdraw their dollar deposits were so long that police had to keep order. Banks soon announced they were suspending allowing withdrawals.

Or, maybe lenders remember what happened in June, 2022 when Russia refused to pay its foreign currency debt, mainly the U.S. dollar.
Posted by Auburn1968
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Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 9/25/25 at 11:03 am to
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According to Reuters, by 26 August Russian oil companies had lost 17% of their refinery capacity.
Fuel shortages are being observed in 20 regions of Russia and in the temporarily occupied territories of Ukraine. Meanwhile, fuel prices continue to rise across the country.


This getting close to the OPEC oil crisis of the 1970's. Looks like it will get a lot worse. It's the kind of thing that is hard to ignore.
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 9/25/25 at 11:34 am to
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it’s a fact that the Ukrainians have pulled off two very successful offenses already.


Do they know this?
Posted by texag7
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Posted on 9/25/25 at 11:42 am to
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This getting close to the OPEC oil crisis of the 1970's.


Lord have mercy
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 9/25/25 at 11:50 am to
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 9/25/25 at 11:55 am to
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Posted on 9/25/25 at 12:14 pm to
Posted by VolSquatch
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Posted on 9/25/25 at 12:18 pm to
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Ftom what I found on line Obama was POTUS, but Trump had already won the 2016 election


Yep, looks like thats the case

quote:

It’s not hard to say. We know that Russia was not attacked, There was never a serious attempt for the US to put boots on the ground. Little was done by the US. We also know Russia launched a huge attack on Ukraine in 2022.



Its disingenuous to pretend that guys like Graham don't have an outsized influence. Its evidence that they didn't have enough power to get that done (if that was even the real intent).
Posted by VolSquatch
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Posted on 9/25/25 at 12:19 pm to
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hey rsjr oug mortgages.


Posted by VolSquatch
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Posted on 9/25/25 at 12:19 pm to
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it’s a fact that the Ukrainians have pulled off two very successful offenses already.


You're counting Kursk, which even serious Ukraine supporting analysts will now tell you was a strategic blunder?
Posted by VolSquatch
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Posted on 9/25/25 at 12:22 pm to
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Mearsheimer backs up my last post. He must be reading my posts also.

Trump telling Europe and Z to put up. When they don't and the inevitable happens Trump can wash his hands.


Honestly with Trump I struggle to know exactly how much of it is this, him trying to pressure Russia, or him just waffling on things like he often does.
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 9/25/25 at 12:22 pm to
Posted by VolSquatch
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Posted on 9/25/25 at 12:24 pm to
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European officials fear that Trump is preparing to blame them for Ukraine's failure


I am on record saying I think Ukraine will eventually fail, but what failure as of today? They have held on remarkably well and hit Russian infrastructure in a meaningful way (though I do not think it has been quite as crippling as some narratives suggest).

If Europe is so worried about this, they could just invest more in Ukraine's defense. Do they not know that is an option?
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 9/25/25 at 12:27 pm to
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Posted on 9/25/25 at 12:31 pm to
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Posted on 9/25/25 at 12:50 pm to
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If Europe is so worried about this, they could just invest more in Ukraine's defense. Do they not know that is an option?



Europe has massive financial issues. Not sure printing more billions to give to Ukraine will help the situation



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