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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict.

Posted on 9/4/25 at 12:23 am to
Posted by Obtuse1
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Posted on 9/4/25 at 12:23 am to
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Thats a good counterpoint, I should have been more specific. The difference between this situation and Cyclone is that Cyclone wasn't us funding a conflict Russia saw as existential. This one is quickly becoming existential for them if it isn't already.


It may be existential for Putin but despite any internal views, it isn't existential for Russia.

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Short term advantage doesn't guarantee long term dominance, and especially not so when they will be lapdogs for China.


Any military commander will take short term gains if they can reasonably turned into long term gains. The same with geopolitics.

Russia is gaining institutional knowledge of trench warfare with drones. It is incumbant on us to gain as much knowledge from the war as possible and continue to focus on air supremacy to avoid this sort of war. While they may suprise me the USSR and Russia never built a modern war machine, it has proven quite ineffective. We still have massive advantages in conventional warfare that should be easy to keep if we don't go to sleep. I expect Russia to keep focused on its preferred type of warfare which will just move them further behind. China lacks any real institutional memory of warfare in its military so despite the veil of an economic powerhouse and a true production juggernaut, they are like a football team that hasn't played a real game in decades and only playing "on paper". Love it or hate it while they are playing Madden we are consistently playing D2 and G5 teams.
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
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Posted on 9/4/25 at 4:01 am to
Thanks Vlad!


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The UK has allocated $1.3 billion from frozen Russian assets to aid Ukraine. During his visit to Kyiv, Defence Secretary John Healey said the funds went to artillery shells, air defense missiles, spare parts, and new maintenance contracts.
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
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Posted on 9/4/25 at 4:10 am to
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Campaign of strikes on the positions of Russian stationary radars is underway.

Tonight in Rostov Oblast, two stationary Russian radar positions were attacked: First radar: 47.617210063497865, 40.681188368078

Second radar: 47.4907316375655, 42.41919517835579

A day ago, another Russian stationary radar position was attacked in Anapa, Krasnodar Krai: 44.8407637, 37.3514889

Locals in crimea also reported recently that radar site near Lazurne was targeted: 44.6398344, 34.3855186
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Posted on 9/4/25 at 4:11 am to
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
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Posted on 9/4/25 at 4:14 am to
The campaign against Ru radar sites is begining to pay off -

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A popular Russian military-propaganda Telegram channel, Voennyi Osvedomitel, writes: “Ukraine has intensified the use of Bayraktar TB2 drones’ strike capabilities in Kherson region. Previously, the enemy had also used Bayraktars, but mainly for reconnaissance purposes and did not risk approaching the operational range of Russian air defense (???).”

“Recently, due to the increased Ukrainian strikes on Russian air defense systems, radars, and Starlink terminals in Kherson region, Ukrainian Bayraktars have gained the opportunity to be employed for their direct intended purpose.” See the latest updates with us: @NSTRIKE1231




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Recently targeted Russian stationary radar sites on a map.


Stationary sites only. Many S-300 units have been hit recently as well in these same areas.

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Posted by Coeur du Tigre
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Posted on 9/4/25 at 4:26 am to
Separately, two additional Nebo-U long range radar units hit in Rostov -

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A couple interesting targets seemingly hit by Ukraine tonight. Two radar/air defense stations were observed to be burning by NASA FIRMS.

Possibly preparations for an upcoming attack? #1 47.61755, 40.68239 #2 47.49004, 42.4176


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Radius of 600km around each point (claimed range of 55Zh6U Nebo-U.


Posted by Coeur du Tigre
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Posted on 9/4/25 at 4:31 am to
Not to be outdone, the standby S-300 mobile radars make a nice $40 million bavovna -

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Aftermath -

Posted by Coeur du Tigre
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Posted on 9/4/25 at 4:43 am to
That of course would be 'the count (sp) from Hungary'.

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Russia sharply increased purchases of potatoes and other vegetables from China, because Russia now depends on China and India for survival.

Potato supplies from China to Russia from the beginning of 2025 until September 2 have increased 4.2 times — from 36.5 to 151.9 thousand tons compared to the same period last year, the Rosselkhoznadzor reported.

In addition, imports of onions from China increased 2.3 times — from 22.4 to 50.9 thousand tons, cabbage — by 66.2% (to 32.4 thousand tons), apples — by 32.2% (to 31.6 thousand tons), cucumbers — by 26.7% (to 13.3 thousand tons).

Putin and his bandits in the Kremlin have truly fricked the country, and yet he is off with his begging bowl in China - kissing the ring of communist dictators and grooming Fico and the count from Slovakia.


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Posted by cypher
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Posted on 9/4/25 at 6:42 am to
15 killed, 26 injured in Russian attacks across Ukraine over past day

September 4, 2025 12:20 pm

At least 15 civilians were killed and 26 injured in Russian strikes across Ukraine over the past 24 hours, regional authorities reported on Sept. 4.

Ukraine's Air Force said Russian forces launched 112 Shahed-type attack and decoy drones overnight, with air defenses intercepting 84.

Another 28 drones struck 17 locations, while debris hitting five more, the military added.

Donetsk Oblast was hit hardest, where 11 civilians — nine of them in Kostiantynivka — were killed and 16 injured, Governor Vadym Filashkin said.

Two civilians were killed and two more injured in Kherson Oblast, where residential areas and critical infrastructure were hit, Governor Oleksandr Prokudin reported.

In Kharkiv Oblast, Russian strikes killed one person and injured six as the city of Kharkiv and 11 settlements came under fire, Governor Oleh Syniehubov said.

In Dnipropetrovsk Oblast, one man was killed and a 49-year-old woman injured, according to Governor Serhii Lysak.

Russian attacks on Sumy Oblast injured one woman, with local authorities recording 133 strikes on 41 settlements.

The Kyiv Independent
Posted by LSU7096
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Posted on 9/4/25 at 6:57 am to
Too bad NATO is a concept funded by USA only for past 30 years.

We failed Georgia and Ukraine with talks of NATO membership then allowed Putin to invade at his will. USA and EU foreign policy has been horrible irt Russia.

I lived in Russia for 4 years, the common Russians are good people. Their leaders are corrupt and thieves, but many of ours are as well.

Too bad the Bushes, Clintons, and Obama with the CIA failed to cultivate what could have been a good relationship.
This post was edited on 9/4/25 at 6:04 pm
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Posted on 9/4/25 at 7:40 am to
Posted by VolSquatch
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Posted on 9/4/25 at 8:07 am to
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It may be existential for Putin but despite any internal views, it isn't existential for Russia.



If its existential for Putin, Russia will act as if its existential for them until Putin isn't in charge anymore.

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While they may suprise me the USSR and Russia never built a modern war machine, it has proven quite ineffective.


Everything at one time never happened until it happens. Weaponry has only gotten more deadly and more destructive since WW2. Even if the next time Russia does this is in 60 years and their equipment is largely coming from 20 years before that, they will still be a much more deadly foe than they have been in this conflict (and they've still killed a ton of people in this one). But with the state of technological advances nowadays, even 10 year old equipment might be completely obsolete that far into the future.

Posted by VolSquatch
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Posted on 9/4/25 at 8:15 am to
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I lived in Russia for 4 years, the common Russians are good people. Their leaders are corrupt and thieves, but many of ours are as well.

Too bad the Bushes, Clintons, and Obama with the CIA failed to cultivate what could have been a good relationship.


I think there are two sides to this, and I've written about this before.

On one hand, what Russia is doing now isn't out of character for them going back hundreds of years. The cake is kind of baked at this point. Their hybrid European/Asiatic culture/mindset is just generally more "aggressive" for lack of a better word than a European one. Asia would have wars every decade or so if there weren't US bases and ironically Chinese influence "keeping the peace" over there. Many of those countries hate each other.

On the other, its undeniable that our (talking about the west as a whole) foreign policy toward Russia even after the fall of the USSR hasn't made for good neighbors. Europe has been, until recently, reliant on Russian fossil fuels while also calling their leaders murderers the whole time (and rightly so, just to be clear).

I think the former is FAR more influential of a factor than the latter, but you can't throw out the latter point either.

This post was edited on 9/4/25 at 8:16 am
Posted by cypher
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Posted on 9/4/25 at 8:16 am to
Flamingo Missiles Manufacturer Announces Development of FP-7 and FP-9 Ballistic Missiles, Air Defense Systems

Ukrainian company Fire Point announced the development of its own FP-7 and FP-9 ballistic missiles, as well as air defense systems.

The announcement was made during a press conference at the MSPO international defense exhibition in Poland, Militarnyi’s correspondent reported.

The company presented technical specifications for the two new ballistic missiles.

FP-7

FP-7 has a range of up to 200 km, a maximum speed of 1,500 m/s, and a circular error probable (CEP) of 14 meters. Its warhead weighs 150 kg, and the maximum flight duration is 250 seconds.

The missile is launched from a ground platform and is intended for the operational destruction of medium-range targets.

FP-9

FP-9 has a range of up to 855 km, a speed of 2,200 m/s, a warhead of 800 kg, and a maximum flight altitude of 70 km.
With an accuracy of 20 meters, it is capable of striking targets deep behind enemy lines.

Militarnyi
Posted by CitizenK
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Posted on 9/4/25 at 8:39 am to
What is interesting is that Ukraine SOF has been working against Russia in several nations such as Libya, the Saheel of Africa, Syria and more. This is similar to the small wars of Reagan in the Americas, Africa and Afghanistan. Thus, a drain on the Russian economy.

The captured area by Russia, since 2014, is also a drain on Russia's economy. How much of mining and manufacturing has been rebuilt? My guess is little to none. There is a cost for occupation without economic activity.
Posted by CitizenK
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Posted on 9/4/25 at 8:54 am to
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On the other, its undeniable that our (talking about the west as a whole) foreign policy toward Russia even after the fall of the USSR hasn't made for good neighbors. Europe has been, until recently, reliant on Russian fossil fuels while also calling their leaders murderers the whole time (and rightly so, just to be clear).


bullshite.

We rebuilt and revitalized their oil and gas production, developed new fields for them, built refineries for them. Plus, the WEST has traded with them, not just oil and gas but coal and metals. We even let them buy bauxite mines in Jamaica allow Rusal to get somewhat of a monopoly on Aluminum. (BTW, Peter Zeihan has it all wrong about Russia relying on China for aluminum metal, once again clueless)
Posted by VolSquatch
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Posted on 9/4/25 at 8:56 am to
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bullshite.



Well, you would certainly be an expert on that topic.

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Peter Zeihan


I don't give a frick about this guy or what he has to say
Posted by cypher
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Posted on 9/4/25 at 10:08 am to
Posted by doubleb
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Posted on 9/4/25 at 11:32 am to
ISW update




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Key Takeaways Russian President Vladimir Putin explicitly stated that he does not consider Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky to be the legitimate president of Ukraine, invalidating the very basis of any future peace agreement between Ukraine and Russia. Putin himself is responsible for Ukraine’s inability to legally hold the referendums and elections for which Putin is calling. Putin and other high-ranking Kremlin officials continue to explicitly and publicly state that they are committed to achieving Russia’s original war aims through military means. Putin underscored his continued commitment to his theory of victory, a belief that Putin first outlined in June 2024, on September 3. Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko continues to publicly deepen Belarusian integration into Russia. The Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD) attempted to use footage showing a small-scale infiltration mission to lend legitimacy to inflated claims by Russian Chief of the General Staff Army General Valery Gerasimov on August 30 that Russian forces had seized roughly half of Kupyansk. The Russian MoD’s claims about Kupyansk have failed to convince large parts of the Russian milblogger community, even Kremlin-affiliated and coopted milbloggers. The Kremlin appears to be trying to exploit the mapping methodologies that have become widespread throughout the war, including from OSINT sources like ISW. Russia launched another large-scale combined drone and missile strike against Ukraine on the night of September 2 to 3—the fourth combined strike of over 500 drones and missiles since the August 15 US-Russia summit in Alaska. Ukrainian forces recently advanced near Pokrovsk, and Russian forces recently advanced in the Kostyantynivka-Druzhkivka tactical area
This post was edited on 9/4/25 at 11:34 am
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
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Posted on 9/4/25 at 12:43 pm to
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This is interesting. The best marine drone tech in the world combined with the best sailors in the world.

And all right on Xi's doorstep. If we think this coming right after Monday's SOC meeting and the day after the giant Chinese military parade is simply a coincidence... we need to think again.
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