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re: LA's stupid sales tax system has been sued

Posted on 11/17/21 at 1:58 pm to
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 11/17/21 at 1:58 pm to
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The businesses pushing this overhaul lobbied the legislature over time to include niche exclusions in 47:301 for various processes


Not really. The current issue is a collection issue, not a taxation issue. The businesses who have mainly benefitted from sales tax exclusions are not the same businesses that are having to collect and remit the tax.

You are correct in asserting that our system is overly complex, and the more complex the system, the more loopholes and exclusions found in that system. And I won't deny that LABI has pushed for some of those exemptions.

Ideally, we would blow up the entire sales tax regime and start over, make it more simple AND consolidate under single filing. Sadly there is not the political will right now for that.

And as far as pro-business vs anti-business... again... all of these tax breaks are a result of a system that has grown increasingly complex. I'd blame LABI less for that and blame more of the single-industry lobbyists for that (I'm looking at you, LMOGA)
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
15076 posts
Posted on 11/17/21 at 2:05 pm to
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I admit I probably got on a tangent.
Fair enough, and I do think you make some good points.

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It’s not difficult to file state and local sales tax forms through the portal. Could it be simpler? Yes. However, the larger problem with them is how difficult it is to figure out what you owe.


Sure the filing is not that bad. But each parish might have their version what the law says is owed. And then there is the nightmarish auditing process. This is huge problem for any retail business of any size.

Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
Member since Mar 2013
21057 posts
Posted on 11/17/21 at 2:20 pm to
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It would also cause massive under-collections. People would just say F it, I'm not paying,

Good. The government can learn to get by on less and cut unnecessary bullshite spending.

One of the literal largest reasons for revolution and founding principles of this country is no taxation without representation and a smaller federal government along with larger individual freedoms
This post was edited on 11/17/21 at 2:22 pm
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42619 posts
Posted on 11/17/21 at 3:01 pm to
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When has the state hired "half the number to do the work"? The state would hire 4X the number to do half the work.

How old are some of you? We don't have a few more decades for y'all to figure this out.


And your rebuttal us what?
Parish government IX efficient? Go to City Hall in NO or the Governmental Bldg. in BR and count the people.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41052 posts
Posted on 11/17/21 at 3:39 pm to
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Good. The government can learn to get by on less and cut unnecessary bullshite spending.


I'm all for lower taxes and lower spending... but what happens here is the people who follow the rules will get penalized while the "rebels" get benefits.

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One of the literal largest reasons for revolution and founding principles of this country is no taxation without representation and a smaller federal government along with larger individual freedoms


Where is there taxation without representation occuring?
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
27178 posts
Posted on 11/17/21 at 3:57 pm to
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Once again... the majority of posters on this website prove they are not real conservatives. Congrats. You played yourself.


How do you know that 60% of the voters didn't vote, for amendment 1?
Posted by Dixie Normus
Earth
Member since Sep 2013
2871 posts
Posted on 11/17/21 at 4:41 pm to
We’re on the same page. The problem lies in the administrative nightmare of sorting out what someone owes between state and local sales tax rather than the physical act of filing. Much of that can be cleaned up through a complete overhaul and harmonization of applicable state / local taxes.

If I was made dictator, we would shift all taxes to the constitution and axe over 75% of them. That way, it makes it much more difficult to enact / remove exclusions or exemptions. I’d remove the current distinguishing features of exclusion v exemption from tax. Finally, I don’t know exactly what it would look like but I would implement some sort of credit for reinvestment into the local area of the business. For example, a plant in EBR could touch up some roads there and receive a $2 tax credit for every $1 invested into the local community.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41052 posts
Posted on 11/17/21 at 10:32 pm to
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was made dictator, we would shift all taxes to the constitution


Oof. No.

We need a slim, simple constitution. In fact, I would not have any tax policy in there at all.

If we don't trust the legislature, we need to find new legislators.
Posted by JustLivinTheDream
Member since Jan 2017
3619 posts
Posted on 11/17/21 at 10:36 pm to
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Power in America should start locally and funnel up


Posted by SaintsTiger
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Posted on 11/18/21 at 6:40 am to
The plaintiffs should win. How many businesses are arranging their affairs to avoid this ridiculous regulatory scheme? This is another example of Louisiana costing itself a fortune in not only tax revenues, but goods and services and economic development potential. All because of narrow minded politicians.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
104010 posts
Posted on 3/11/22 at 3:00 pm to
Good.

The number and types of exemptions we have on sales tax are a fricking mess of ill-documented spaghetti logic.
Posted by markinkaty
Katy Tx
Member since Dec 2019
4507 posts
Posted on 3/11/22 at 3:01 pm to
No sales tax if you just take what you want and walk out.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
104010 posts
Posted on 3/11/22 at 3:02 pm to
Works in NOLA and in certain big box stores elsewhere.

Less so in most other business and areas.
Posted by markinkaty
Katy Tx
Member since Dec 2019
4507 posts
Posted on 3/11/22 at 3:07 pm to
I'm sorry, I thought California.
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Posted on 3/15/22 at 12:23 pm to
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