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re: Landry calling for Constitutional Convention to remove/raid protected funds.

Posted on 3/30/24 at 11:01 am to
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
41610 posts
Posted on 3/30/24 at 11:01 am to
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They ALL were Democrats back then. They just switched parties when it suited them. RINO'S.


So why protect a Constitution that you know was crafted by our most powerful Governor since Huey Long so he could wield power?

Don’t blame Republicans. None were around,
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
41610 posts
Posted on 3/30/24 at 11:05 am to
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Maybe so, but the PEOPLE of Louisiana Protected the shite. They had good reason and it was put to them to approve or disapprove. How much longer do you think Homestead exemption should last before being removed by these HONEST politicians?


You do understand that the voters have to approve a new Constitution just like in the 70s?
Posted by boudinman
Member since Nov 2019
6101 posts
Posted on 3/30/24 at 11:07 am to
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You do understand that the voters have to approve a new Constitution just like in the 70s?


Yes I do. Think they'll trust the La. government to live up to their words and promises?
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
41610 posts
Posted on 3/30/24 at 11:19 am to
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Yes I do. Think they'll trust the La. government to live up to their words and promises?


Words and promises? You know they put the Constitution in writing.

And I believe if the leaders in the state write a better Constitution; they will have to explain the changes and sell it to the voters. If not it won’t pass.
Posted by Bard
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Member since Oct 2008
57668 posts
Posted on 3/30/24 at 11:21 am to
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“them”?


Funds which were supposed to be protected.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
41610 posts
Posted on 3/30/24 at 11:28 am to
Jindal didn’t raid protected funds.

Jindals reforms lowered spending. He wasn’t a big spender. He refused to raise taxes.

He really hurt the state by neglecting his duties on arun for president. That was his downfall.

JBE came in preaching doom and gloom, got a massive tax increase, increased spending and presided over a bigger and bigger government.
This post was edited on 3/30/24 at 11:34 am
Posted by BlueDogTiger
Member since Jan 2014
1415 posts
Posted on 3/30/24 at 11:34 am to
It is not just spending more. Some funds can not even be cut even if the dedicate program has run its course and no longer needed.

Only education and medical can be cut. Basically.
Posted by cssamerican
Member since Mar 2011
7906 posts
Posted on 3/30/24 at 11:40 am to
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How much longer do you think Homestead exemption should last before being removed by these HONEST politicians?

0 days, 0 hours, 0 minutes, and 0 seconds. It's absurd that half the individuals around me pay nothing because they're exempt and continue to vote for higher property taxes on my end. They face no consequences in constantly voting to raise my taxes, but if everyone had a stake, we could trust voters to make more sensible decisions.
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
5861 posts
Posted on 3/30/24 at 11:42 am to
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And how has protecting certain funds improved anything


especially when the only things you can cut are education and healthcare - 2 of the most important things
Posted by Bard
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Member since Oct 2008
57668 posts
Posted on 3/30/24 at 11:45 am to
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Jindal didn’t raid protected funds.


Yes
He did

Along with those, Parks had a special fund of ~$40M for maintenance and improvements (paving roads, new cabin roofs, etc) that he raided.

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Jindals reforms lowered spending. He wasn’t a big spender. He refused to raise taxes.


That's quite a bit of revisionism. Jindal lowered spending, but it wasn't by choice. Jindal came in when Katrina funds were still rolling in hot and heavy, he had absolutely no problems spending those. As those dried up, oil prices increased to help make up the shortfall. Due to his pledge to not raise taxes, when he got Stelly repealed he did it only in a half-assed fashion.

Stelly replaced sales tax with higher income taxes, when he got it repealed, he lowered income but did not reinstate the sales tax. This combined with the quick drop in oil prices created massive budget problems right before he left office. He raided tons of state funds in order to keep from raising taxes to balance the budget before he left office (as he was already running for President).

This is also the guy who went to the legislature to "consolidate state IT" by presenting them with a benefit analysis. Normally, such an endeavor is presented as a cost-benefit analysis. Thankfully, the legislature didn't bite on it (at least not that time, but eventually they would and it would end up being a rolling clusterfrick).

This is also the guy who declared a wage freeze for all state employees but then "laid off" at least one of his staff members only to "hire them back" the next day at a higher salary.

Jindal can continue to frick off.
This post was edited on 3/30/24 at 11:47 am
Posted by boudinman
Member since Nov 2019
6101 posts
Posted on 3/30/24 at 12:10 pm to
Dont forget Jindal raided the Group Benefits health plan of funds intended to pay claims for its state employees.
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
33031 posts
Posted on 3/30/24 at 1:16 pm to
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The plan is to remove constitutionally protected funds that were approved by state voters

You mean like these funds, that desperately need protection from being used on schools, highways, storm repairs, internet infrastructure, police, fire, wildlife protection, etc?

* Atchafalaya Basin Conservation Fund
* Higher Education Louisiana Partnership Fund
* Millennium Leverage Fund
* Agricultural and Seafood Products Support Fund
* First Use Tax Trust Fund
* Louisiana Investment Fund for Enhancement

Whats the name of the fund youre gonna lose access to?
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
111904 posts
Posted on 3/30/24 at 1:18 pm to
Good.

Absolutely necessary so that when times get lean higher education and health care aren't the only targeta.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103090 posts
Posted on 3/30/24 at 3:14 pm to
This.

The only funding that can be discretionary cut is education IIRC.

In practice, it means we get JBE threatening to kill LSU football season to get his way. Should not be how this gets done anymore.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
41610 posts
Posted on 3/30/24 at 3:36 pm to
Like I said, he wasn’t a big spender and he didn’t raise taxes.

You may not like the way he did that, but I much preferred his methods to those of JBE.

Who btw, is leaving a big mess for Landry because guess what? He increased spending big time, and his huge tax increase is about to expire. And where did all the hurricane relief and Covid money go?

Not for economic growth as we continue to see our best and brightest leave for greener pastures and better jobs.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
41610 posts
Posted on 3/30/24 at 3:39 pm to
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0 days, 0 hours, 0 minutes, and 0 seconds. It's absurd that half the individuals around me pay nothing because they're exempt and continue to vote for higher property taxes on my end. They face no consequences in constantly voting to raise my taxes, but if everyone had a stake, we could trust voters to make more sensible decisions.


You might like my idea. Make everyone pay something. Don’t exempt anyone until everyone pays on the first 50K (that number is debatable) then the next 75K is exempt.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
464119 posts
Posted on 3/30/24 at 3:44 pm to
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Jindal didn't need a Constitutional Convention, he just raided them (ask State Parks).

If these pols are being honest about their goals, they're trying to avoid exactly the issues Jindal faced.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
464119 posts
Posted on 3/30/24 at 3:45 pm to
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Maybe so, but the PEOPLE of Louisiana Protected the shite. They had good reason and it was put to them to approve or disapprove.


Bruh.

Our amendment process is a joke. A simple majority on random election days when special interests get their group/family out to vote to protect that group.

I hope our new constitution limits how elections are called so that we have 1-2 election dates per year for everything.
Posted by BoudinChicot
Member since Sep 2021
2061 posts
Posted on 3/30/24 at 4:11 pm to
This. Bobby Jindal thought gutting state parks in the sportsman's paradise was somehow going to save the state.

Dude would have sold them all off if he could have. frick him and his corny Mr. Rogers arse.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
41610 posts
Posted on 3/30/24 at 4:25 pm to
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This. Bobby Jindal thought gutting state parks in the sportsman's paradise was somehow going to save the state. Dude would have sold them all off if he could have. frick him and his corny Mr. Rogers arse.

Let the board vote, should you gut state parks during an oil recession, or raise state taxes to balance the state budget?
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