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re: LA State Politics: Can someone explain wtf is going on in Lafayette re: University Hosp?

Posted on 5/9/18 at 7:43 am to
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
20720 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 7:43 am to
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University is a shithole. They should bomb the place and cut their lose


For all those who favor universal state supported health care, look at these hospitals.

This is what we will all get once the far left gets their way.
Posted by the_watcher
Jarule's House
Member since Nov 2005
3451 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 7:51 am to
quote:

University is a shithole. They should bomb the place and cut their lose

Where should all the patients go if their only option is closed? You don’t even get that you don’t get it
Posted by STRIPES
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2003
4771 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 8:01 am to
LSU athletics isn't state funded so the State can suck it.
Posted by cajuncarguy
On the road...Again!
Member since Jun 2013
3135 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 8:04 am to
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JBE is not doing this.


You are either stupid or just a liberal liar.
Posted by saints5021
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
19033 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 8:05 am to
I know the board generally doesn't like Kennedy, but I think he would be a good cut and grow governor. We gotta get our taxes down and revenue up or we will continue to bleed jobs and our talent will continue to move to other states.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103097 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 8:07 am to
A retarder child would be a better governor than JBE.

I don’t have to like Kennedy to vote for him.
Posted by Boatshoes
Member since Dec 2017
6775 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 8:08 am to
Here's a thought: Completely shut down the Humanities majors and departments at every university in the state.
Posted by russpot
alexandria
Member since Jul 2007
425 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 8:14 am to
Scare tactics by Democrats.........terror tactics....
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103097 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 8:14 am to
One better, shut down SUNO and Grambling.
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34200 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 10:33 am to
JBE should he put in jail. I didn't realize Louisiana was ranked #1 in education and health care before he took office and drove it down to last place since he took office. Also the first governor that had budget cuts.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103097 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 10:37 am to
Other governors who have run deficits may have cut things but didn’t have pressers picked up by the national media threatening to shutter the state’s flagship university or evict 30,000+ geriatrics from nursing homes.

It’s his methods as much as anything. Grandstanding bullshite may win in the short term but creates long term issues.
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34200 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 10:46 am to
I know Jindal is widely regarded as a saviour on this board, but why didn't he force the issue in shutting down colleges, and make drastic spending cuts to bloated organizations like DOTD,
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103097 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 10:53 am to
Well considering DOTD isn’t up to the governor’s discretion, that’s not a great place to start.


As far as colleges go, Jindal tried to do a combination of cuts and “rainy day funds” to minimize damage and the college squealed like stuck pigs.

Attempts to merge two underperforming universities were met with cries of racism.

When you can’t shut down a university with a single digit graduation rate, you can’t shut down anything.
Posted by Cajunese
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
7153 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 11:43 am to
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How about this? Louisiana lost 0.4 percent of its GDP in 2016 and another 0.2 percent in 2017. With a state economy of $251 billion in current dollars, that’s a good $1.5 billion budget cut to the people of the state. That’s your actual money being cut.

frick JBE and the idiotic republicans that put that fraudulent thief in office. Constantly stealing our tax money with nothing to show for it and red tape out of the arse that has killed jobs and killed economic growth.


It's the same vicious cycle that has been plaguing this state for almost a century.

We are a poor state with a high poverty rate, so what do we do? We tax those making more money to give to the same poor people and basically keep them poor because they have no incentive to work with all of the freebies they get.

Then, these same politicians complain that the state is broke. So then what do they do? Tax the same people some more and give MORE to the poor.

They don't bring in jobs. They don't attempt to put competent people in charge of the education system. So now, the poor can't get a decent education OR a job. So, they stay poor. Why is that?

Simple answer: Our politicians want it that way

If the impoverished become educated and successful, they no longer need the politician to spoon feed them, thus taking away his/her power. It's the same reason why we still haven't attempted a constitutional convention. The politicians here don't want to cut other departments because they know they will upset those constituents. So, they keep things the same while complaining that we are too poor.

Vicious cycle..........
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
40160 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 12:11 pm to
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Other governors who have run deficits may have cut things but didn’t have pressers picked up by the national media threatening to shutter the state’s flagship university or evict 30,000+ geriatrics from nursing homes.

It’s his methods as much as anything. Grandstanding bullshite may win in the short term but creates long term issues.



Not saying he's not grandstanding (of course he is), but I can't recall a time where we have played with this much fire, this close to the edge.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103097 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 12:17 pm to
Part of how we could have not ended up here would have been for the legislature to cut spending or the Black Caucus not to give an ultimatum to the rest of the legislature demanding certain changes to the tax scale.

Said changes would have overly benefitted their constituents, who are low income, while fricking over about 60% of the state.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
40160 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 12:19 pm to
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I see nothing but hysteria about budget cuts to Medicaid that would leave University Hospital closing down, laying off 800+ employees. and that the Medicaid cuts would leave 60,000 elderly and sick being evicted next month from nursing homes and assisted livings..


Whats the real situation?


Two, different but related issues.

1) When LSU got out of community health care (a smart move, I might add), the state contracted with hospital companies to run these hospitals. That contract calls for the state to pay X dollars per year to the hospitals. The budget in the senate funds 0 dollars of that. As such, the state would be in default of the contract, and the companies believe they can't run the hospitals with this money. Thus, they would close.

2) There is an alternative nursing home program under Medicaid that relaxes the requirements to qualify. Like everything else with Medicaid, the state puts up a portion of the money, and the feds match it with a much greater portion. If the state puts up 0 dollars, the feds put up 0 dollars. Again, the budget being considered by the senate funds these programs with 0 state dollars, so there would be no federal dollars.

In both situations, by law, certain notice must be given before these programs/facilities shut down. We are now in that legally mandated notice period. Hence, why these notices are going out.

All of this is because of the end of the temp taxes on July 1. The state can't budget more than it predicts it will receive. The state also can't add/extend taxes during regular sessions in even numbered years.

What the state can do, is pass these cuts now, pass the budget, then as soon as the regular ends, call a special, extend some taxes, amend the budget to remove these cuts, and life goes on. But if that was going to be easy, it would have been done back in the special session earlier this year.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
40160 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 12:22 pm to
quote:

Part of how we could have not ended up here would have been for the legislature to cut spending or the Black Caucus not to give an ultimatum to the rest of the legislature demanding certain changes to the tax scale.

Said changes would have overly benefitted their constituents, who are low income, while fricking over about 60% of the state.




The Black Caucus is no more or less to blame than the rest of them. We have 105 state reps, all of whom are fully focused on what is best for their district citizens, not what is best for the state as a whole. That's how they get re-elected.

There is hundreds of millions of obscene pork spending all over this great state.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103097 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 12:32 pm to
Pretty sure the threshold on tax bills is a 2/3 majority.

That means a caucus refusing to vote for a bill out of hand makes it that much harder.


2/3 of 105 is 70.

If the Black Caucus refuses out of hand, that means you are having to try and get 70 votes out of 90-95 seats rather than 105.

It makes the margin for error extremely thin.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
35572 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 12:32 pm to
Maybe it would be a good idea to list the things in the state budget that are untouchable due to constitutional amendment and statute and look at them because I can guarantee you that there is a lot of shite "protected"
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