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re: Kyle Rittenhouse Jury Deliberation Day 3: Reported Jury is done deliberating for the day

Posted on 11/18/21 at 4:17 pm to
Posted by HubbaBubba
North of DFW, TX
Member since Oct 2010
50963 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 4:17 pm to
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I would be lucking up how to get rid of this foreman Karen person and be done with this trial.
If the foreman is not working in good faith, the other jurors have the right to pass a note to the judge telling the judge that the foreperson is not following their oath.
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
29024 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 4:20 pm to
The Judge then says the jurors can go look online and do their own research after the defense attorneys objected to giving the juror the jury instructions to take home.

WTF?
Posted by LC412000
Any location where a plane flies
Member since Mar 2004
16673 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 4:21 pm to
Is she Jon Cusack Jr? Who knows what advice she is receiving in the evenings and from whom?
Posted by Strannix
C.S.A.
Member since Dec 2012
52940 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 4:22 pm to
This is insane going into day 4, the jury system is broken
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
17626 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 4:24 pm to
"Sure. Bring the instructions home."

I'm pretty sure, they can't.
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
40011 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 4:24 pm to
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If the foreman is not working in good faith, the other jurors have the right to pass a note to the judge telling the judge that the foreperson is not following their oath.


1) Do they know that they can do this

2) Did the prosecution add reduced charges for the jury to consider? IF SO, why can they do that? To me it means they know their case stinks.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
86110 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 4:27 pm to
Would be interesting to know what the 6 alts think. Would love to know their verdict and thoughts about the others.
Posted by Caraway Rye
Member since Oct 2021
5108 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 4:27 pm to
quote:

The Judge then says the jurors can go look online and do their own research after the defense attorneys objected to giving the juror the jury instructions to take home.

WTF?


Twitter will decide the trial

And you all said "twitter isnt real"
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 4:29 pm to
quote:

If the foreman is not working in good faith, the other jurors have the right to pass a note to the judge telling the judge that the foreperson is not following their oath.


1) Do they know that they can do this


This.

Most people have no idea what is allowed and what isn't.
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
56183 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 4:30 pm to
Why is the jury taking so long?

This is the easiest case to find not guilty.

The juror has been tampered and or threatened by the woke mob.

If true these individuals need a massive sentence
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
94811 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 4:31 pm to
quote:

Why is the jury taking so long?


They're hung. Or they're negotiating a compromise verdict.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 4:31 pm to
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The juror has been tampered and or threatened by the woke mob.


Or it's as simple as a progressive or two on the jury.

Law doesn't matter to them. Outcomes do.
Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
7935 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 4:35 pm to
There is no way the jury is allowed to look up anything

I think it is a mistrial to let them take jury instructions home
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
24808 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 4:35 pm to
Honest question, what is the big deal about bringing to instructions home? They are available online for the whole world to see.
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
101961 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 4:37 pm to
After a 7 hour day and 21 hours of deliberations, she's not taking the instructions home to pour over them for some golden revelation that hasn't been found in 3 days work. She's 100% trying to find some legal opinions on Google that justify a guilty conviction.

She's gonna come back tomorrow morning with a notebook full of legal jargon she doesn't understand and use it to tell everyone else why they're wrong for 7 more hours.
Posted by Itismemc
LA
Member since Nov 2008
4786 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 4:38 pm to
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Honest question, what is the big deal about bringing to instructions home? They are available online for the whole world to see.



Because the probability of just looking at only the instructions is next to 0%. They're gonna google their assses off.
Posted by Chancellor
BHam
Member since Oct 2017
3482 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 4:38 pm to
The Court just indirectly gave them permission to do their own independent work on the verdict outside of the jury room.

Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
80063 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 4:38 pm to
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Honest question, what is the big deal about bringing to instructions home? They are available online for the whole world to see.


It gives her cover to say "I took these instructions home, and if you look at x, y, and z evidence..."

But in actuality, she is reading things on the internet or is being supplied infomation to convince more jurors.

And in the morning, she has cover as to why she came up with these new thoughts.

That's the big deal.
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
29609 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 4:39 pm to
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The enhanced still shots are the only "evidence" where provocation is claimed.


Does anyone have these shots that can be posted here?
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
19267 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 4:39 pm to
I haven't followed this trial as closely as some of you, but 4 days of deliberation equals one of two things:

1) Guilty verdict incoming (probably lesser charges)

2) Hung jury

I hope it's the latter, but I doubt it.
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