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re: Kyle Rittenhouse Jury Deliberation Day 3: Reported Jury is done deliberating for the day

Posted on 11/18/21 at 4:39 pm to
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 11/18/21 at 4:39 pm to
This has juror misconduct and mistrial written all over it
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 11/18/21 at 4:39 pm to
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She's gonna come back tomorrow morning with a notebook full of legal jargon she doesn't understand and use it to tell everyone else why they're wrong for 7 more hours.


I hope she does as she will then be thrown off the jury.
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
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Posted on 11/18/21 at 4:41 pm to
She can do that anyway. She can go home, download the instructions off of the internet and print it out.
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
21454 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 4:41 pm to
They aren’t supposed to do any research or discuss the case with anyone outside the deliberation room. Allowing them and by them the foreperson to request a copy to take home, you’re inviting such behavior to take place. Do you really want jurors sitting at home, googling legal definitions, reading legal opinions on said definitions and then taking notes to bring back physically or mentally into the deliberations? It’s a horrible idea, but this crazy judge seems to have zero idea that he’s opened up that can of worms
Posted by Caraway Rye
Member since Oct 2021
5108 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 4:41 pm to
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I hope she does as she will then be thrown off the jury.



It will probably be some shite from New York or something that has no bearing on this case
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
80527 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 4:41 pm to
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I hope she does as she will then be thrown off the jury.


She is likely smarter than that. She will just come up with better ways to convince the jury based on legal arguments she finds on the internet.

This judge thinks shes gonna go home and sit by the fire eating some stew and read the instructions by candlelight.
Posted by BearCrocs
Member since Aug 2013
8504 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 4:42 pm to
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) Guilty verdict incoming (probably lesser charges


I think in this case it’s all or nothing. He can’t be charged for a lesser crime or crimes
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
80527 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 4:42 pm to
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She can do that anyway. She can go home, download the instructions off of the internet and print it out.


This gives her cover for her new found arguments.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
80527 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 4:43 pm to
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I think in this case it’s all or nothing. He can’t be charged for a lesser crime or crimes


So you haven't been watching the trial, have you?
Posted by RealDawg
Dawgville
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Posted on 11/18/21 at 4:43 pm to
Frick off Midwest Karen
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
139030 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 4:44 pm to
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Jury is done deliberating for the day
frick these POS's !
Seriously! frick them!
Posted by Caraway Rye
Member since Oct 2021
5108 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 4:44 pm to
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I think in this case it’s all or nothing. He can’t be charged for a lesser crime or crimes



Those lesser crimes are hardly all that lesser either

Each of the reckless charges is 12.5 years max with 5 years max for firearm specification

Thats not some compromise give him 4 months in jail bullshite

Posted by Daequalizer
Member since Aug 2021
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Posted on 11/18/21 at 4:44 pm to
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
25893 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 4:46 pm to
Or those that are opposed to her bring it to the attention of the court that she was snooping around online and get her dismissed.

I just don’t see the big deal because the instructions are public. If they weren’t public then it would an issue
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 4:46 pm to
The way I see it is the judge allowing it adds another avenue for mistrial.

They were already looking at shite online each night if they felt like it, but him allowing her to take stuff home puts the fault on the court versus the jurors for working outside the jury room.

Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
21454 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 4:47 pm to
I think it’s pretty obvious now that it’s a one or two person holdout. The problem is one is the foreperson which gives her a lot of power to drag this thing out. The others might not even know they can replace her either.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
80527 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 4:47 pm to
This case is a shite show.

Not quite OJ level yet, but creeping in the same ballpark.
Posted by RealDawg
Dawgville
Member since Nov 2012
11315 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 4:48 pm to
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Honest question, what is the big deal about bringing to instructions home? They are available online for the whole world to see.


Try jumping on the internet and googling legal terms and not having something about this case pop up.

Apple gives me top stories and news without asking just for being on the phone.

Zero doubt a majority or their spouses are all over media. Maybe 2 out of the 12 have ethics and aren’t doing it.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 4:50 pm to
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I think it’s pretty obvious now that it’s a one or two person holdout. The problem is one is the foreperson which gives her a lot of power to drag this thing out. The others might not even know they can replace her either.




Someone needs to buy some billboards; "You can replace your foreperson Kyle jurors!"
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
21454 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 4:51 pm to
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I just don’t see the big deal because the instructions are public. If


The entire trial has been public!! The instructions are very clear, you are not to read, lookup, discuss or talk about the case with anyone outside the jury room. That means you’re not allowed to go home and look up very public video of the drone footage as well as look up copies of the very public jury instructions. This entire case is available online but now the door has been opened to make exceptions for this??
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