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re: Kyle Rittenhouse- Jury Instructions/Closing Arguments

Posted on 11/15/21 at 10:34 am to
Posted by MikeEhrmantraut
Anchorage, Alaska
Member since Nov 2020
1001 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 10:34 am to
Could this be more repetitive? Jurors have to be completely tuned out. It’s the same shite for each charge.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
84239 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 10:36 am to
quote:

Is the judge going to read all 37 pages of jury instructions?

Yes, and after about the 2nd page, the jury hears The Peanuts teacher.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
41069 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 10:37 am to
It’s especially boring for us as we’ve already heard most of this. It has to be read into record even though it’s tedious and boring. I’m sure the jury is checked out and will just refer to the written instructions when deliberating.

Over/under on the number of questions the jury sends back asking for clarification?
Posted by RealDawg
Dawgville
Member since Nov 2012
10714 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 10:37 am to
No human could comprehend these instructions.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
86738 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 10:38 am to
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No human could comprehend these instructions.
nope.

5 charges - give me a couple legal sentences about each.

the end.
Posted by tommy2tone1999
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2008
7368 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 10:38 am to
Sweater girl lawyer, "My mom messaged me saying this sounds like a rosary cadence" LOL
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
79140 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 10:38 am to
quote:

Could this be more repetitive? Jurors have to be completely tuned out. It’s the same shite for each charge.


You can thank the prosecutor for over charging.
Posted by Amadeo
Member since Jan 2004
4872 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 10:38 am to
And this why I never get past Leviticus.
Posted by RealDawg
Dawgville
Member since Nov 2012
10714 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 10:41 am to
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You can thank the prosecutor for over charging.


They realize adding this much wears the jury down.

The entire concept of "lessers" by the State AFTER a trial has starter is bullshite. They should have to make their case for charges from the start.
Posted by jatilen
Member since May 2020
13608 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 10:42 am to
Rekieta Law stream: "Can Kyle get time served for this reading?"
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
25999 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 10:42 am to
Can't imagine this will take more than a couple hours. The biggest delay for the jury might be when lunch is delivered.
Posted by Amadeo
Member since Jan 2004
4872 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 10:43 am to
Oh oh, dont want people questioning his soundness.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
79140 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 10:44 am to
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The entire concept of "lessers" by the State AFTER a trial has starter is bullshite. They should have to make their case for charges from the start.


Mr. Rittenhouse had the option to not allow the prosecution to have the lesser charges included and have another trial.

He chose not to do that.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
75026 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 10:44 am to
In which direction? I haven't paid much attention to this.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
79140 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 10:46 am to
quote:

In which direction? I haven't paid much attention to this.


I think the point Tboy is making is that Mr. Rittenhouse either acted in self defense or he didn't.

The fact that he shot and killed these people isn't disputed.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
25999 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 10:47 am to
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In which direction? I haven't paid much attention to this.

He won't be convicted of any serious crimes.
Posted by RealDawg
Dawgville
Member since Nov 2012
10714 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 10:47 am to
quote:

Mr. Rittenhouse had the option to not allow the prosecution to have the lesser charges included and have another trial.

He chose not to do that.


Don't be a count.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
79140 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 10:49 am to
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Don't be a count.


Huh?
Posted by Wiseguy
Member since Mar 2020
4007 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 10:49 am to
quote:

Mr. Rittenhouse had the option to not allow the prosecution to have the lesser charges included and have another trial.

He chose not to do that.


Yes- but I agree that once the trial starts lesser included charges should be off the table. The prosecution should know if they plan to include those charges at the start. In fact, I don’t like the concept period. Charge the defendant with what you think he is guilty of. If you don’t have the evidence to convict then charge them with the lesser offense from the start. It would stop some of the overcharging that happens.
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
14550 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 10:54 am to
This case is exhibit #1 for the reasons why you should be prepared to defend yourself in court if you do use a firearm in self defense.

These prosecutors are absolute political shills.
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