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re: Kuwaiti F/A-18 shot down our pilots

Posted on 3/4/26 at 8:50 am to
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
17447 posts
Posted on 3/4/26 at 8:50 am to
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Number of air-to-air kills on F-15’s in 50 years of active service… 3. This guy has all of them.


That's what I was about to say. The F-15 platform hadn't lost a single jet to any conflict before that. And then one idiot shows up and downs three in a friendly fire incident.
This post was edited on 3/4/26 at 8:51 am
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
39243 posts
Posted on 3/4/26 at 8:57 am to
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There's an old saying in Tennessee. I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee, that says, 'Fool me once, shame on... shame on you. Fool me, you can't get fooled again

Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me?
Posted by GeauxBurrow312
Member since Nov 2024
6265 posts
Posted on 3/4/26 at 9:04 am to
That pilot has had more success against us than the combination of the Iranian and Venezuelan militaries
Posted by Cincinnati Tiigre
Cincinnati
Member since Nov 2015
1496 posts
Posted on 3/4/26 at 11:41 am to
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That pilot has had more success against us than the combination of the Iranian and Venezuelan militaries


More success against the F-15 than Syrian, Lebanese, Jordanian, Iraqi, Iranian, Bosnian, Libyan Air Forces and I'm sure I'm forgetting others.
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
77581 posts
Posted on 3/4/26 at 11:48 am to
Is the pilot transfer portal open? Asking for a friend.
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
29557 posts
Posted on 3/4/26 at 11:56 am to
Idiots, Trump should send them a bill for replacement value.
Posted by Lucky_Stryke
central Bama
Member since Sep 2018
3180 posts
Posted on 3/4/26 at 12:01 pm to
I dunno why we are still flying f15s in a war theatre. Only guess is there is no realistic threat from Iran and purely offensive bombing.
Posted by Chip82
Athens, Georgia
Member since Jan 2023
2048 posts
Posted on 3/4/26 at 12:01 pm to
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If that’s what happens then my faith in our air force is greatly diminished


The signature of the F18 probably showed up as a non-threat.

Probably the first time that the Kuwait pilot was in a real combat mode situation.

Posted by j1897
Member since Nov 2011
4618 posts
Posted on 3/4/26 at 12:06 pm to
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It was supposedly absolute chaos. I'm more surprised that he shot down all three before one of them got a shot off. Sounds like poor operational awareness.


Bro there's a video, they weren't dogfighting. Cruising at 10k and maybe 300kts.

Posted by Lizardman2
Member since Jan 2024
2759 posts
Posted on 3/4/26 at 12:14 pm to
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Damn. One pilot/plane got 3 of our F-15s


If the IFF system had them identified as "FRIEND" then they had no reason to think the Kuwaiti pilot would fire on them.

My confusion is the F/A 18 failure. They use IFF Mode 5 now which is a broad spectrum technology and the F-15's even in silent mode recognize the IFF radar signiture.

Something stinks about this IMHO

Posted by jp4lsu
Member since Sep 2016
6762 posts
Posted on 3/4/26 at 12:17 pm to
We just don't know what the situation was and what are the rules of engagement and if there things that added to the confusion.

First, I wouldn't rule out ill intent. You never know with these muslim sects.
Second, Were the F15's over friendly? Are they supposed to turn on transponders when over friendly? I doubt it.
Third, I would think AWACs would be used to confirm friendly/foe. was there a language barrier, was AWACs talking to Kuwaiti forces.
Posted by Lg
Hayden, Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
8602 posts
Posted on 3/4/26 at 12:17 pm to
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Eagles returning inbound unaware of incoming drones potentially conflicting them as targets. Kuwaiti pilot launches from BVR at 3 radar contacts.



Aren't there designations on radar to distinguish good guys from bad?
Posted by Stat M Repairman
Member since Jun 2023
2806 posts
Posted on 3/4/26 at 12:19 pm to
Posted by captainFid
Never apologize to barbarism
Member since Dec 2014
10523 posts
Posted on 3/4/26 at 12:45 pm to
I want confirmation it was 'our pilots' please.

EVERYWHERE , there are stories of this posted, shooting down "American Jets/plane"

Not one has made it easy to tell who were those drivers flying for.
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