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re: Koch brothers will not back Trump in '24.

Posted on 2/5/23 at 11:57 am to
Posted by L1C4
The Ville
Member since Aug 2017
16561 posts
Posted on 2/5/23 at 11:57 am to
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The AFP could outspend Trump
How many Republicans take money from the AFP?

It's time to stop billionaires from buying politicians.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
177279 posts
Posted on 2/5/23 at 11:58 am to
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Koch brothers will not back Trump in '24.

Strange to see CNN run a positive story about Trump
Posted by LSUwag
Florida man
Member since Jan 2007
18110 posts
Posted on 2/5/23 at 11:59 am to
That’s as earth shattering as the predictable announcement that Retired General Colin Powell backs whatever Democrat is running.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
62079 posts
Posted on 2/5/23 at 12:08 pm to
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The Koch Brothers are/were open borders globalists anyways. They want illegal immigration just as much as the Soros family, they just want it for different reasons (ultra cheap labor).


This is 100% true
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 2/5/23 at 12:19 pm to
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It's time to stop billionaires from buying politicians.
citizens united 5 to 4.
companies can buy federal elections.

Posted by L1C4
The Ville
Member since Aug 2017
16561 posts
Posted on 2/5/23 at 12:26 pm to
Do corporations have free speech rights?

Seems I remember the turtle man was all for that.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
15666 posts
Posted on 2/5/23 at 2:38 pm to
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One of them is dead. The Koch Brothers are/were open borders globalists anyways. They want illegal immigration just as much as the Soros family, they just want it for different reasons (ultra cheap labor).


Odd that their refineries, chemical plants and paper mills are all unionized.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
15666 posts
Posted on 2/5/23 at 2:52 pm to
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That would be difficult, given that only one is still alive.

In any case, they were never big supporters.


There were four brothers, two are deceased. One sold of the two remaining is not involved with Koch Industries, or Koch PAC, and doing his own thing as the mega petcoke trading and calcining compahy, Oxbow. He tried to take over Koch Industries long ago and ended up selling out. He funds conservative rather than libertarian efforts.

Ned Dieffenthal, of NOLA is a member of Koch PAC. Lapeyre of NOLA is as well, owner of Intralox and Laitram Machinery. Both are Classic Liberals, thus quite libertarian.

NSA Spy Blocker dude, Randall "Randy" Paul, now known as Rand since his did ran for president, went before the Koch PAC, seeking their support in his attempt to president. He went casual with jeans. The group found it disrespectful and wouldn't contribute to his campaign.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128773 posts
Posted on 2/5/23 at 3:13 pm to
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Trump’s taxes on Americans buying from foreign countries and China


They really hurt your bottom line.
Posted by Tandemjay
Member since Jun 2022
4639 posts
Posted on 2/5/23 at 3:34 pm to
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Koch brothers will not back Trump in '24.


I can accurately guess which two establishment/globalist from the south that he will back.
This post was edited on 2/5/23 at 3:35 pm
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 2/5/23 at 3:38 pm to
The Koch’s are great Americans and believe in small government and individual freedom
as do I.
This post was edited on 2/5/23 at 3:39 pm
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
22925 posts
Posted on 2/5/23 at 4:09 pm to
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One of them is dead.


Beat me to it. David died like 5 yrs ago...
Posted by USMEagles
Member since Jan 2018
11811 posts
Posted on 2/5/23 at 4:15 pm to
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Hard to pigeonhole, but closer to "libertarian" than to "neo-con."


Pffft... yeah, I'm sure they're really libertarian when it comes to what they can dump in the creek behind their factory.
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
20943 posts
Posted on 2/5/23 at 4:17 pm to
This is good for Trump. Naturally CNN is too dumb to understand that.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
15666 posts
Posted on 2/5/23 at 4:53 pm to
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Pffft... yeah, I'm sure they're really libertarian when it comes to what they can dump in the creek behind their factory.


1. Their technology for chemical processing enables greater efficiencies and cleaner end products.
2. Well if you believe the Russian propaganda about "dirty tar sands" then yes. That source of heavy and very heavy crude oil makes products used for EV's, smelting alumina into aluminum and all sorts of useful products.
3. They make mostly tissue used to wipe your butt at their paper mills. They also used recycled paper as feedstock. Their major mill is at Port Hudson, LA.
Posted by KAGTASTIC
Member since Feb 2022
7989 posts
Posted on 2/5/23 at 5:25 pm to
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This is good for Trump. Naturally CNN is too dumb to understand that.

Yes they are... because the lefties response to Soros "bogeyman" is always the Koch brothers, they know no one else to counter with.
Posted by Tmcgin
BATON ROUGE
Member since Jun 2010
6557 posts
Posted on 2/5/23 at 6:35 pm to
The commitment to lose elections to substandard candidates by
Trump cucks is baffling
Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
25212 posts
Posted on 2/5/23 at 6:50 pm to
Koch Bros....so what.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
37497 posts
Posted on 2/5/23 at 8:36 pm to
Didn't Trump have Steve Mnuchin as his SecTreas? Goldman Sachs vet. Trump would hire a globalist....so long as he he would swear a blood oath to His Orangeness
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
47034 posts
Posted on 2/5/23 at 8:42 pm to


Wait, I thought the big own on Trump was the list of billionaires who were contributing to him was soooo massive.

If true, why does one Koch even mean that much then?


I don't get it.
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