re: Kevin O’Leary Explains to CNN Audience, NYC Case Against President Trump is Nonsense

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Whether or not someone was the victim of that is immaterial.

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In a civil case such as this, I assure you it is quite material.

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The no victims thing is a weak argument

If I speed and don't cause an accident I'm still breaking traffic laws

Either his business committed fraud or it didn't. Whether or not someone was the victim of that is immaterial.

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You should be embarrassed.......but you're not.

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The no victims thing is a weak argument

If I speed and don't cause an accident I'm still breaking traffic laws

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its a civil case not criminal. There are no damages so wtf do you think is the remedy?

Trump didn’t actually organize it. In fact, people didn’t even know he was going to show on the day of the speech

Two idiot dems who ran for office based on their campaign promises to "get Trump" are conspiring to get Trump. That is criminal on its face.

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CIVIL RIGHTS CONSPIRACY


18 U.S.C. § 241

Conspiracy Against Rights

Section 241 makes it unlawful for two or more persons to agree to injure, threaten, or intimidate a person in the United States in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured by the Constitution or laws of the United States or because of his or her having exercised such a right.

Unlike most conspiracy statutes, §241 does not require, as an element, the commission of an overt act.

The offense is always a felony, even if the underlying conduct would not, on its own, establish a felony violation of another criminal civil rights statute. It is punishable by up to ten years imprisonment unless the government proves an aggravating factor (such as that the offense involved kidnapping aggravated sexual abuse, or resulted in death) in which case it may be punished by up to life imprisonment and, if death results, may be eligible for the death penalty.

Section 241 is used in Law Enforcement Misconduct and Hate Crime Prosecutions. It was historically used, before conspiracy-specific trafficking statutes were adopted, in Human Trafficking prosecutions.

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MISCONDUCT BY LAW ENFORCEMENT & OTHER GOVERNMENT ACTORS


18 U.S.C. § 242

Deprivation of Rights Under Color of Law

This provision makes it a crime for someone acting under color of law to willfully deprive a person of a right or privilege protected by the Constitution or laws of the United States. It is not necessary that the offense be motivated by racial bias or by any other animus.

Defendants act under color of law when they wield power vested by a government entity. Those prosecuted under the statute typically include police officers, sheriff’s deputies, and prison guards. However other government actors, such as judges, district attorneys, other public officials, and public school employees can also act under color of law and can be prosecuted under this statute.

Section 242 does not criminalize any particular type of abusive conduct. Instead, it incorporates by reference rights defined by the Constitution, federal statutes, and interpretive case law. Cases charged by federal prosecutors most often involve physical or sexual assaults. The Department has also prosecuted public officials for thefts, false arrests, evidence-planting, and failing to protect someone in custody from constitutional violations committed by others.

A violation of the statute is a misdemeanor, unless prosecutors prove one of the statutory aggravating factors such as a bodily injury, use of a dangerous weapon, kidnapping, aggravated sexual abuse, death resulting, or attempt to kill, in which case there are graduated penalties up to and including life in prison or death. If charged in conjunction with 18 U.S.C. § 250, as noted below, all sexual assaults under color of law are felonies.

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https://www.justice.gov/crt/statutes-enforced-criminal-section#:~:text=18%20U.S.C.%20%C2%A7%20242&text=This%20provision%20makes%20it%20a,laws%20of%20the%20United%20States.

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If I speed and don't cause an accident I'm still breaking traffic laws

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Terrible terrible example man. Imagine whatever state you live in is trying to ban you from driving forever in your state because you were going 5 miles over the posted speed limit

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Who was the victim in this case?

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Wouldn’t the state make more money in fees if Trump inc actually did inflate values?

Hmmmmm.

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Either his business committed fraud or it didn't.

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I worked in lending, mostly residential.

Fannie Mae Form 1003 is the universal residential loan application.

One of the sections is value of the property. You estimate the value of the property you are applying for a loan on.

At the end of the 1003, there's a signature required, with a warning stating that any misrepresentation is a violation of federal law.

Everyone always overestimates their assets on the loan application. Always. Because it is an ESTIMATE.

It's up to the lender to order an appraisal of those assets, and the lenders have underwriters (and now AI) to red flag other assets claimed (401k value, etc) and IRS form 4506 so they can verify your income with the IRS, and many other little things they can do to keep you honest and do their own homework before approving your loan application. Signature Authorizations so the lender can go to your bank and request bank statements and retirement savings statements, etc. And all of that is just for a basic home loan.

You think these mega-loans in the commercial world don't have similar, or even more robust methods of adjudicating their applicants' loan applications for millions of dollars?

Powerman, you are a true clown.

Imagine if a contestant went on Shark Tank and asked for $500,000 for a 10% stake in their company, giving it a valuation of $5,000,000. Then after 7 minutes of conversation, the sharks determine the company is only worth $645,953 according to their valuation. The Left thinks those contestants should do 10 years in prison for misrepresenting the value of their company.