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re: Kenneth Walker WAS NOT a drug dealer
Posted on 9/24/20 at 5:41 pm to AggieHank86
Posted on 9/24/20 at 5:41 pm to AggieHank86
quote:and there is yet another example of people jumping to conclusions without any evidence whatsoever. blame the professionals without knowing all of the facts. the police chief and the ky ag are covering for the police who lied so that they could snuff out someone for the color of their skin according to anonymous internet jockeys far removed from the situation
Without those lies, it seems unlikely the Judge would have issued a midnight, forced-entry warrant for Taylor's residence
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Posted on 9/24/20 at 5:41 pm to L1C4
The one thing I hope we can all agree on is that there are so many rumors of what the "real" facts are which means that NONE OF US really know a damn thing.
One thing I read was that Walker admitted that the cops knocked and identified themselves but, given the time, he thought it was a rival drug dealer pretending to be cops and that's why he started shooting.
Is that true?
I don't know.
And while the death of anyone can be said to be a "tragedy," some people make bad choices and put themselves in bad situations. IF THEY ARE BEING HONEST, even the biggest BLM/Breonna fan woukf have to admit that she put HERSELF in that bad situation.
For me, I'm inclined to give these cops the benefit of the doubt until it is PROVEN that they were at fault.
And, FOR DAMN SURE, I am not just taking Kenneth Walker's word as gospel. Even if we take his momma's word for it and believe that he is "a good boy," the only indisputable FACTS we know for certain at this point is that he got mixed up with Breonna, who was mixed up with a violent drug dealer, and someone died as a result.
One thing I read was that Walker admitted that the cops knocked and identified themselves but, given the time, he thought it was a rival drug dealer pretending to be cops and that's why he started shooting.
Is that true?
I don't know.
And while the death of anyone can be said to be a "tragedy," some people make bad choices and put themselves in bad situations. IF THEY ARE BEING HONEST, even the biggest BLM/Breonna fan woukf have to admit that she put HERSELF in that bad situation.
For me, I'm inclined to give these cops the benefit of the doubt until it is PROVEN that they were at fault.
And, FOR DAMN SURE, I am not just taking Kenneth Walker's word as gospel. Even if we take his momma's word for it and believe that he is "a good boy," the only indisputable FACTS we know for certain at this point is that he got mixed up with Breonna, who was mixed up with a violent drug dealer, and someone died as a result.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 5:43 pm to pwejr88
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Several neighbors have come forward explaining the events of that night.
The race hustling lawyers scour the neighborhood to get any body to say anything. It happened at 3:00 am. They may be telling the truth but I doubt it.
I know this goes on in Chicago.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 5:44 pm to the808bass
quote:name one instance. you know this isn't true. name one time i knowingly lied and then just dropped it. you aren't talking about this situation because i'm still here posting on the topic and i'm right.
You knowingly lie in threads and then don’t return to the threads when it’s obvious you’re lying
quote:this coming from a person who was asked for evidence for your position and you never provided any.
You’re a dishonest person
Posted on 9/24/20 at 5:45 pm to AggieHank86
quote:is that what happened?
Anyone who discharges a firearm in a reasonable belief that he is acting in self-defense is obviously a "thug," right?
Posted on 9/24/20 at 5:46 pm to MMauler
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And, FOR DAMN SURE, I am not just taking Kenneth Walker's word as gospel.
I wouldn't take the word of anybody involved as gospel, which is why we should have body cams.
quote:
For me, I'm inclined to give these cops the benefit of the doubt until it is PROVEN that they were at fault.
That's where I was at probably 5 years ago. The digital era and some time spent on an online forum that had a lot of cops completely erased that benefit of the doubt unless I personally know them.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 5:46 pm to L1C4
Both were drug dealers as was Breanna.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 5:51 pm to chity
quote:It was just after midnight.
It happened at 3:00 am.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 5:51 pm to L1C4
quote:I accept all that as fact.
Idk how many times I have read this in different threads.
Breonna Taylor's ex bf was the drug dealer.
Walker is a licensed gun owner.
With a ccw permit. You don't get that if your a convicted felon.
Also he did not shoot the cop through the door as I have read in other threads.
Do you accept that no crime was committed by the police that shot her other than what was charged?
Posted on 9/24/20 at 5:52 pm to Flats
quote:You have to have video to support a policeman returning fire?
That's where I was at probably 5 years ago. The digital era and some time spent on an online forum that had a lot of cops completely erased that benefit of the doubt unless I personally know them.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 5:52 pm to the808bass
quote:all of this is a separate issue from the actual raid. totally different and it's sad that people are conflating the two because their emotions are getting in the way of the facts.
They lied at least twice on the warrant.
They said there were surveillance cameras at Breonna’s house. They said that they had used a USPS inspector to discover that Glover was using her address.
people are not looting/rioting because of clerical errors. they are going berserk because an innocent, unarmed harmless dove of a black person was hunted down and killed merely for being black (according to them). and then rubes itt are siding with these clowns.
i'll ask yet again, if you think the police acted illegitimately during the raid, present your evidence. otherwise, the raid (no knock, announcement, who shot first, drug connections, etc) is not an issue and people are yet again rioting due to ignorance.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 5:53 pm to Janky
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Except a recorded phone call where Glover said that exact thing.
Glover made such a claim after Taylor had been killed when speaking to the mother of one of his children.
That context is important because Glover could have been sandbagging the woman about the reason for his lack of child support payments.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 5:54 pm to tigerfoot
quote:On scene? I think that is accurate.
Do you accept that no crime was committed by the police that shot her other than what was charged?
The lying cop who drafted and filed the fraudulent affidavit to obtain the warrant in the first place? Different question.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 5:55 pm to L1C4
This bed does not look like someone was shot while sleeping in it like the media and everyone else keeps claiming.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 5:56 pm to LSUwag
quote:
Both were drug dealers as was Breanna.
NONE OF US know that for sure. Maybe the cops do. Maybe the State Attorney does. But we don't.
Even if Walker is the salt of Earth do-good Christian who has never committed a sin in his life that the MSM is portraying him to be in order to promote THEIR OWN racist and political agenda, at worst he was just in the wrong place at the wrong time.
ETA: Another thing I hope we can agree on is that LeBron James is a complete f*cking MORON and virulent RACIST and no one should believe a damn thing he says, especially when it comes to anything involving race or politics. And, that goes for all of his Hollyweird friends as well.
This post was edited on 9/24/20 at 6:30 pm
Posted on 9/24/20 at 5:56 pm to tigerfoot
quote:
You have to have video to support a policeman returning fire?
That's not what I'm saying; I don't see a crime by the cops in this particular case. I'm saying in a he-said/he-said, I don't automatically give the cops the benefit of the doubt any more.
Just one reason.
https://nypost.com/2014/02/21/cops-hit-my-car-then-arrested-me-to-cover-it-up-suit/
Posted on 9/24/20 at 5:57 pm to the808bass
quote:but you trust that the witnesses who said the police did not announce their presence are being truthful? just asking where you people are drawing lines so i can know where the special pleading starts
I wouldn’t trust anything he says
Posted on 9/24/20 at 5:57 pm to AggieHank86
quote:Fine, investigate that. But the discussion over the shooting is just asinine.
The lying cop who drafted and filed the fraudulent affidavit to obtain the warrant in the first place? Different question.
This is a huge waste of time, energy and money. Another case where folks are all inflamed and couldnt tell you why.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 6:00 pm to Toomer Deplorable
quote:again, this is a separate issue that is being interjected into the raid itself. we can debate this until the end of time because it's academic and btw, these types of issues will NEVER be 100% eliminated.
Yet it never should have reached that point
quote:that is emotion, not fact. it is your opinion.
This raid needlessly put civilians and LEO in harm’s way
there are a few people on this board who have lost all objectivity over this issue. it's astonishing to witness. 808 is not a bad person but has completely gone off the reservation on this topic
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