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Posted on 4/26/23 at 8:30 am to stout
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am currently in on Trump but Ron distancing himself from these types of people and all the Paul Ryan, Jeb Bush RINOs could help sway me.
Don't fall for it. This is just a campaign tactic. They realize DeSantis' relationship with these people is hurting him. So what do you do? You give the appearance that you have distanced yourself from them.
Don't fall for it.
Posted on 4/26/23 at 8:30 am to SlowFlowPro
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They know Trump can't win. It has nothing to do with Biden and certainly not supporting Leftism.
They are all on the same team. How do you not see this?
Trump is enemy numero uno to these people.
Posted on 4/26/23 at 8:33 am to Tiger985
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Don't fall for it. This is just a campaign tactic. They realize DeSantis' relationship with these people is hurting him. So what do you do? You give the appearance that you have distanced yourself from them.
Don't fall for it.
Trump took money from Soros and gave money to Kamala Harris. Those are facts, not keyboard conspiracy cracking.
Posted on 4/26/23 at 8:35 am to The Maj
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I can admit Trump fricked up on COVID and that Ron did put COVID restrictions in place as well...
The "task force" led by Fauci made recommendations but any actions at state levels were 100% on the state. Noem also bucked a lot of the task force recommendations but doesn't get as much credit for it as Ron did. Ron enacted some restrictions and shut downs. 100% undeniable.
To Ron's credit, he realized it was BS fairly early on and also did a lot to limit state and county power over CV mandates.
Posted on 4/26/23 at 8:35 am to stout
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Did Ron finally grow some brass and tell people he can't be bought?
Finally?
When has Ron ever acted differently?
You guys see imaginary shite because Trump told you to
Posted on 4/26/23 at 8:37 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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This is why I make fun of you.
Deflection at its finest... I suppose it makes sense to you but like I said, you and folks like you are unhinged on this stuff...
Pretty pathetic...
Ill ask again, did the checkpoints happen or not?
Posted on 4/26/23 at 8:37 am to Fun Bunch
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When has Ron ever acted differently?
He flip flops on everything
Posted on 4/26/23 at 8:40 am to stout
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To Ron's credit, he realized it was BS fairly early on and also did a lot to limit state and county power over CV mandates.
I can agree with this but like you said, he did impose some restrictions and shut downs during COVID...
Posted on 4/26/23 at 8:42 am to Kelly_Slater
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He flip flops on everything
Made up complete bullshite.
Posted on 4/26/23 at 8:43 am to The Maj
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I can agree with this but like you said, he did impose some restrictions and shut downs during COVID
Virtually everyone did.
Those that realized it quickly should get credit and those that hung on to the bitter end should be derided.
Those that are STILL hanging on should be excoriated.
Agree?
Posted on 4/26/23 at 8:43 am to tide06
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The problem is he HAS to be bought, he can’t self fund like Trump.
Posted on 4/26/23 at 8:45 am to BuckyCheese
These people are delusional.
When we point out the shitbags that Trump has taken heaps of money from they just ignore it.
Trump took money from GEORGE SOROS. GEORGE frickING SOROS.
When we point out the shitbags that Trump has taken heaps of money from they just ignore it.
Trump took money from GEORGE SOROS. GEORGE frickING SOROS.
This post was edited on 4/26/23 at 8:46 am
Posted on 4/26/23 at 8:45 am to The Maj
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I can agree with this but like you said, he did impose some restrictions and shut downs during COVID...
FL imposed more mandates and restrictions than SD did under Noem. That's a fact. Noem just doesn't get the proper recognition for keeping her state open. I am not sure why that is. Maybe because Ron is seen as the only one that can "stop" Trump so his actions are pumped up more.
FWIW Noem has also fought the culture war much the same as Ron and some of what FL has done was motivated by bills passed or proposed in SD first.
This post was edited on 4/26/23 at 8:47 am
Posted on 4/26/23 at 8:48 am to stout
I give Noem a ton of credit. However, their situations are different.
South Dakota population: 895,000
Florida Population: 22,000,000
The pressures and difficulties associated with that, with much higher density of population, plus an extremely high elderly population, are different pressures. Context matters.
Both should get credit. Noem for her courage from the start, and Desantis for realizing what a bullshite scam the Federal Government was pushing and changing course, along with Kemp and Abbott.
South Dakota population: 895,000
Florida Population: 22,000,000
The pressures and difficulties associated with that, with much higher density of population, plus an extremely high elderly population, are different pressures. Context matters.
Both should get credit. Noem for her courage from the start, and Desantis for realizing what a bullshite scam the Federal Government was pushing and changing course, along with Kemp and Abbott.
Posted on 4/26/23 at 8:48 am to Kelly_Slater
Dictator? Weird. Sounds like a progressive quip. Wait.
Posted on 4/26/23 at 8:49 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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he was all in on shutdowns at first
Nope.
Florida Governor Orders Statewide Lockdown
He was in on it at first. I don't fault him because very early on we had no idea what we were facing. I already gave him credit for realizing it was BS pretty quickly and reversing course.
Again, I think Ron and Don throwing Covid jabs at each other is a losing stance for both of them.
Posted on 4/26/23 at 8:50 am to Jon Ham
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Trump took money from Soros and gave money to Kamala Harris. Those are facts, not keyboard conspiracy cracking.
Who said anything about Trump?
Are the things you mentioned hurting Trump? They don't seem to be. Maybe DeSantis should try and make an issue of it.
Trump framing DeSantis as an establishment tool is working. The DeSantis campaign recognizes it's working. These stories are an attempt to change that narrative.
I'm trying to help you with the politics. Truth is of little value to either side. This is politics.
Posted on 4/26/23 at 8:51 am to stout
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Again, I think Ron and Don throwing Covid jabs at each other is a losing stance for both of them.
This is where we part. You're making them equivalent and they are not.
Covid is 100% a winning issue for Ron. He reversed course early and made one of the most populous states in the nation extremely free, and it boomed as a result.
Trump had Fauci barking orders until the bitter end and was still touting the vaccine as of this year.
Posted on 4/26/23 at 8:51 am to stout
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Noem has also fought the culture war much the same
Didn't she refuse to sign one of the bills that keeps trans people from playing girls sports and then tried to save face by ordering an executive ban that barely means anything?
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