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re: Ken Griffin has been privately telling people he’s deeply troubled by DeSantis
Posted on 4/26/23 at 8:52 am to stout
Posted on 4/26/23 at 8:52 am to stout
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FL imposed more mandates and restrictions than SD did under Noem. That's a fact. Noem just doesn't get the proper recognition for keeping her state open. I am not sure why that is. Maybe because Ron is seen as the only one that can "stop" Trump so his actions are pumped up more.
Noem wanted to lockdown but was blocked by the SD legislature
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Posted on 4/26/23 at 8:53 am to Tiger985
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Trump framing DeSantis as an establishment tool is working
Only among complete morons. Desantis can't really counter much because he isn't in the race.
Once he is this stuff will be laughed at in a few months.
Posted on 4/26/23 at 8:54 am to The Maj
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Deflection
I directly quoted it for you.
The claim was made for shutdowns. You posted some bullshite about checkpoints.
What are you missing here?
Posted on 4/26/23 at 8:54 am to Midtiger farm
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Didn't she refuse to sign one of the bills that keeps trans people from playing girls sports
Because she wanted it rewritten due to legality issues. The first draft apparently had issues that could have possibly been defeated in court. She did sign the new bill once it was rewritten and voted in.
The media never reported on that part of it and just spoon-fed people that she didn't sign the bill to make her look bad.
This post was edited on 4/26/23 at 8:55 am
Posted on 4/26/23 at 8:55 am to stout
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FL imposed more mandates and restrictions than SD did under Noem.
First, as has already been pointed out for you, she doesn't get credit for that.
You're also ignoring the difference between the populations of the two states. It's easy to say "we're good" when there are only 11 people in your state.
Posted on 4/26/23 at 8:56 am to stout
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He was in on it at first.
No, he wasn't.
Do better than an NPR headline...
Posted on 4/26/23 at 8:57 am to jlnoles79
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Noem wanted to lockdown but was blocked by the SD legislature
Nowhere have I ever seen this. Do you have a link?
Noem did issue some executive orders over Covid. They were very early on, like Ron, and mostly targeted the elderly.
Posted on 4/26/23 at 8:57 am to Fun Bunch
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Covid is 100% a winning issue for Ron.
Indeed. There are a couple things I bet he wishes he could do over, but for the most part, he did it right.
Posted on 4/26/23 at 8:57 am to Fun Bunch
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Only among complete morons.
Do you realize how many morons vote? Look around you.
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he isn't in the race.
Yes he is. To continue to use this excuse to hide his poor performance is revealing. His rollout has been terrible. His campaign launched on election night. You know it, I know it, and anyone with half a brain knows it.
Posted on 4/26/23 at 8:59 am to stout
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FL imposed more mandates and restrictions than SD did under Noem.
i'm not a DeSantis apologist by any measure. but the need to lockdown in a sparsely populated state like South Dakota to somewhere like Florida whose main industry is tourism are not the same.
personally, i give everyone a pass on the first month or so of covid policies. we were all deceived by a few people in powerful positions that had an agenda to get rid of political rivals.
Posted on 4/26/23 at 8:59 am to stout
Video of Noem talking enforcement and leg blocking bill
Also a post of the executive order
Also a post of the executive order
This post was edited on 4/26/23 at 9:01 am
Posted on 4/26/23 at 9:00 am to stout
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Nowhere have I ever seen this. Do you have a link?
I just looked it up, it is true...sort of.
She issued something to the legislature wanting to clarify her emergency powers, and in it requested some clarification on some very sweeping powers.
The legislature rejected it.
She then tried to claim later on that it was only asking for clarification on her existing Emergency Powers and not an implementation. Several legislators have disagreed with that interpretation of history.
or something like that, from what I gathered in looking at it for 20 seconds.
There has been a PR war between the Governor's office and legislators for a few years now
Posted on 4/26/23 at 9:02 am to Fun Bunch
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She issued something to the legislature wanting to clarify her emergency powers, and in it requested some clarification on some very sweeping powers.
I wish all legislatures would restrict the emergency powers of Governors. I am not a fan of any Gov being able to act as a dictator during a SOE but I don't see the issue in Noem wanting clarification early on.
Posted on 4/26/23 at 9:04 am to stout
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FL imposed more mandates and restrictions than SD did under Noem. That's a fact. Noem just doesn't get the proper recognition for keeping her state open. I am not sure why that is.
South Dakota;
Florida;
(The caption on this photo was "Photos Show People Ignoring Coronavirus Self-Isolation Mandates")
There's more people in Milwaukee than the whole state of South Dakota. Comparing apples and oranges.
Don't forget Noem vetoed a bill that would have kept trannies out of girls sport and locker rooms. That killed her popularity.
Posted on 4/26/23 at 9:07 am to BuckyCheese
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Don't forget Noem vetoed a bill that would have kept trannies out of girls sport and locker rooms. That killed her popularity.
The first bill had issues. A new bill was made, passed, and signed by her.
South Dakota Governor Kristi Noem Signs Anti-Trans Sports Bill into Law
About the first bill
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South Dakota Gov. Kristi Noem vetoed a bill that would have barred transgender girls and women from playing sports with other women Monday, just days after she celebrated its passage. The state’s first woman governor still supported House Bill 1217, she said at a press conference, but didn’t sign it because she feared legal backlash from the National Collegiate Athletic Association.
“The NCAA is a private association,” Noem said. “That means they can do what they want to do. And even though I fundamentally disagree with them when it comes to this issue, if South Dakota passes a law that’s against their policy, they will likely take punitive action against us.”
LINK
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Noem vetoed a similar bill in March because she said the legislation wouldn’t survive legal challenges. Later that month, she issued two executive orders that restricted participation on female sports teams to those assigned female at birth.
LINK
As someone said earlier, context matters.
This post was edited on 4/26/23 at 9:11 am
Posted on 4/26/23 at 9:10 am to BuckyCheese
Yeah, but Jjhogg and RobbBro said DeSantis had Florida Brownshirts out on the beaches and all over I-10, literally dragging people to jail just for coming into Florida.
Posted on 4/26/23 at 9:12 am to stout
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“The NCAA is a private association,” Noem said. “That means they can do what they want to do. And even though I fundamentally disagree with them when it comes to this issue, if South Dakota passes a law that’s against their policy, they will likely take punitive action against us.”
Exactly. She vetoed the first bill because she was afraid the NCAA would cancel some regional in Sioux Falls.
After the backlash she got all the sudden they came up with a bill she could sign. I'd like to see the differences between the two...
Posted on 4/26/23 at 9:13 am to BuckyCheese
I bet you think Huckabee was a good governor. Hutchinson is conservative, GWB was a great governor and a good/great prez.
Posted on 4/26/23 at 9:13 am to jlnoles79
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Trump doesn't self fund
He does using his base to a large degree.
Getting lots of small donations is completely different than having to glad hand and make promises to big money donors and PACs.
Posted on 4/26/23 at 9:14 am to tide06
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Getting lots of small donations is completely different than having to glad hand and make promises to big money donors and PACs.
he gets a huge amount of those champ.
He had some pretty big shady funders in 2016 and 2020. Its a myth that he is "self funded".
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