re: Kamala it is - has over 500 delegates pledged to her already

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Good point, can any of you guys blame the Democrats for ditching Biden? You all know how terrible he is. If the tables were turned Republicans would do the same thing.

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I don't blame them for ditching him. I blame them for concealing his dementia for so long.

And if he ain't fit to run, he ain't fit to be president now.

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Because she’s been obviously incompetent for 4 years. It’s not even debatable. I’ll believe he’s voting for the best candidate when he can list her VP accomplishments with data to support.

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Breaking the record for most tie breaking votes on legislation ought to be something to hang her hat on.

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Wouldn't you say the same thing about Biden? How does this change anything? You didn't think voting for Biden was "party before country?"

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Post needs to be bookmarked for 4 years when they push JD Vance

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Breaking the record for most tie breaking votes on legislation ought to be something to hang her hat on.

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PSA #16483627

c on z enjoys trolling. Don’t let him get get under your skin. Especially on the MSB

Never forget. "Do we now just say that this process didn't matter? That the voters don't have a say?"

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Explain

Is that because the party in office typically has a hard time beating the other after 8 years(or 4 I guess)?

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This + the reaction to Trump/MAGA winning this year + no successor to Trump.

The 2028 DEM organization/reaction is going to be similar to 2020 and they will get a ton of people out to vote.

The 2028 GOP primary is likely going to be the biggest shite show of shite shows, like 2016 without a person like Trump to win it. Lots of black eyes, sore feelings, etc. will create damaged candidates and likely lower turnout.

There is also the economic time bomb that's looming. If that bursts during Trump's term, the GOP is dead in 2028 even without the 2 things above.

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There won't be an "open" process - this is all fake shite.

Obama will seal the deal by coming out at the DNC and endorsing her in effort to boost her.

This is all strategic gameplay.

It's hilarious that democratic voters think they "elected" Biden.

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People seem to be mighty confused on how the primary/caucus process works for the two major parties.

When we vote in primaries or attend caucuses, what we actually vote for is to determine which candidate gets to select what number of delegates for the party convention.

In the case of the democrats, the meant that Biden got to choose 3,896 delegates. Two other minor candidates got to choose 7. In the case of the GOP, Trump got to select 2268 delegates, Haley got to select 97 and other minor candidates got to select 12 others (All from the Iowa delegation).

Those delegates get to choose the presidential candidate for the party at the nominating convention, which just happened for the GOP and won't happen until August 13th or so for the Democrats.

They are pledged to vote for the candidate who selected them unless that candidate refuses the nomination or dies. This happened in 1968 with the Democrats where LBJ quit the race after early primaries and Robert Kennedy was assassinated. In those cases those delegates become unpledged (in 1968 they went for LBJ VP Hubert Humphries).

Biden's hand picked delegates will largely do whatever Biden asks them to do (in this case supporting Harris). This isn't "incorrect". This is how it is supposed to work. If the unthinkable happened and Trump was assassinated before the convention, Trump's hand picked delegates would have determined who the GOP presidential candidate would be. It wouldn't be an open process for all Republicans to choose again. It would be Trumps picks making the call on who the successor would be.

In the case of the Democrats, it's Biden's picks who make that call. The difference is Biden can actually tell them who he'd like them to support.

The nominating process isn't a federal election. The party determines who their nominee will be. The Democratic and Republican parties just use a combination of primaries and caucuses as part of their process for choosing the delegates who select their presidential candidate. Other parties like the libertarians don't do that. They just have a group of insiders make the selection.

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I think it’s wild that so many pledged without her giving a single speech or platform of her policies

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This was obviously a done deal. Kamala has been working behind Biden’s back on this since the debate. And maybe before. When the news was reporting that Jill and Hunter were basically calling the shots for Biden, it was clear he was abandoned or was going to be abandoned.

Think about that: Biden and Co. got outsmarted and outmaneuvered by Kamala Harris.

Unreal.

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They gave Biden the boot because he was tanking in the polls and had no chance to win, not because he's out of his mind.

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There’s out of his mind and there’s completely unable to function on even the most basic level. I think they realized how quickly he was reaching the latter point, and the panic we are seeing is the most obvious response.

I’m not sure they know what gives them a “better chance to win” or even if one alternative reasonably exists over any others.