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re: Justice Department Considering Pushing to Ban Transgendered People from Owning Firearms

Posted on 9/4/25 at 1:58 pm to
Posted by JKeller34
Member since Sep 2025
247 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 1:58 pm to
Again, this thread isn’t about bump stocks it’s about mentally ill transgenders.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39872 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 1:59 pm to
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Yes or no. Is someone with gender dysphoria mentally ill not not.
I think the majority of practitioners now would say "no".
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63432 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 1:59 pm to
quote:

Jesus youre dumb. I specifically said aSPD. How the frick did you miss that?.
Doesn’t make it much better. You’d still exclude damn near every veteran. The psychiatrist in the family actually laughed when I asked her about this.

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And I didn’t say I would ban a thing
Then I have no idea
what you’re arguing about
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
12182 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 2:01 pm to
He’s doing that thing where he’s not taking a position, just pointing out hypocrisy.

(It’s clear what his position is)
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
9372 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 2:02 pm to
This:
“has been adjudicated as a mental defective or has been committed to any mental institution.”

Does not mean

We don't allow the mentally ill to own firearms.

Its a case by case basis as it should be.

A court or doctor giving a determination that an individual is mentally incompetent or a danger to other is a reasonable exception imo but that is a very low percent of folks suffering from mental illness And less than 1% of gun violence is committed by folks suffering from mental illness. I'll post this again to get your thoughts


I dont think you folks understand how broad a spectrum of disorders encompasses the term mental illness. Years ago I suffered from severe depression and relapse of panic disorder after an attempted home invasion where 4 thugs tried to kill me.in my garage...Luckily they were terrible shots and I got away but it fricked me up mentally for a while. I already owned firearm but wanted another. I had a shrink and was on meds to deal with the panic attacks and help me sleep... I also bought several more firearms. Should I not have been allowed too?
Posted by JKeller34
Member since Sep 2025
247 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 2:02 pm to
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Doesn’t make it much better. You’d still exclude damn near every veteran. The psychiatrist in the family actually laughed when I asked her about this.


That’s false. This is about transgenders who have shown the last few years an increase in mental illness and a huge spike in violence. The proposal isn’t for veterans or medications. We understand the slippery slope argument but you and others are making it about that instead of the violence and mental illness of trans.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63432 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 2:02 pm to
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Is that not transgenderism?
Indeed it is. You used the term “psychopath” previously.

quote:

Was that not the question?
Like I said… if you want to presume every person have any experience with gender dysphoria is a dangerous “psychopath” have at it.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59471 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 2:03 pm to
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Look up what “adjudicated” means.


Look up what ASPD means. No way you’re in the medical field.
Posted by Captain Rumbeard
Member since Jan 2014
7168 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 2:03 pm to
100% against this.

SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED is written that way for a reason. I you give these people a millimeter of gun control, they're going for it all.
Posted by Sam Quint
Member since Sep 2022
8890 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 2:03 pm to
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We understand the slippery slope argument but you and others are making it about that instead of the violence and mental illness of trans.

you obviously do not
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59471 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 2:03 pm to
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I think the majority of practitioners now would say "no".


That may be what they say…but they know that’s a political answer.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63432 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 2:04 pm to
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Correct. Honestly, it’s less about the “mental defect” part and more about the “adjudicated” part.
Exactly. But some like the take guns first due process later approach. Same people must Looooove civil asset forfeiture laws.
Posted by JKeller34
Member since Sep 2025
247 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 2:05 pm to
quote:

SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED is written that way for a reason. I you give these people a millimeter of gun control, they're going for it all.


And posted in this thread are acting like this is the first infringement. While doing so some are advocating for mentally ill transgenders instead of states who infringe it everyday for less.
Posted by Violent Hip Swivel
Member since Aug 2023
9426 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 2:05 pm to
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It’s time to lock up all transgenders. They deserve no rights, and should be considered a threat to America.




You'd have made an excellent and useful little Nazi back in the 1930s!
This post was edited on 9/4/25 at 2:06 pm
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
23020 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 2:05 pm to
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Same people must Looooove civil asset forfeiture laws.


We're only taking the money from drug dealers and violent criminals, not everyday people!
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59471 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 2:05 pm to
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Doesn’t make it much better. You’d still exclude damn near every veteran. The psychiatrist in the family actually laughed when I asked her about this.


He asked for a definition of psychopath. I provided it. All that other bullshite you typed is supposition.

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Then I have no idea what you’re arguing about


clearly.
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
12182 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 2:06 pm to
quote:

This is about transgenders who have shown the last few years an increase in mental illness and a huge spike in violence. The proposal isn’t for veterans or medications. We understand the slippery slope argument but you and others are making it about that instead of the violence and mental illness of trans.


It’s crazy how someone on the opposite side of the aisle could replace “transgender” with a group they don’t like, and deliver an identical message.

But again, you are too deep in your cult to see this.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63432 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 2:06 pm to
quote:

Yet Trump has never taken one persons gun away.
Exactly! It’s always best to fight for your rights AFTER they’ve been taken away!

Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59471 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 2:07 pm to
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Indeed it is. You used the term “psychopath” previously.


Go back and look at what that specific post was referring to. Then apologize.
Posted by Sam Quint
Member since Sep 2022
8890 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 2:07 pm to
quote:

And posted in this thread are acting like this is the first infringement. While doing so some are advocating for mentally ill transgenders instead of states who infringe it everyday for less.

is this sort of like the "we've got to kill them or they'll die" argument? we should be ok with this infringement since there are other infringements?
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