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re: Just talked to a teacher

Posted on 4/9/26 at 8:15 am to
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61098 posts
Posted on 4/9/26 at 8:15 am to
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They don’t teach literacy beyond 4th grade, it’s just assumed. However, if you can’t read, you have no chance to succeed in any middle or high school class other than shop or gym. Kids get frustrated and discouraged, realize that they have no chance but are forced to keep showing up, and then they start acting out due to boredom and anger. I saw it all the time.


If a kid can't read near grade-level by third grade, it's pretty much over for them.

I don't have the answer but so many adults in schools just don't give a shite. I taught first grade one year and had a kid in my class who was very obviously on the spectrum. He had behavior problems and didn't know any letter sounds. I would talk to my principal about him and asked her for advice. She told me to just put him on a computer. I straight up asked her, "Would you want your kid's educators to say that about your kid?"

I ended up teaching him how to read doing lots of one on one. He was very, very sweet. Amir.
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
Member since Nov 2006
20074 posts
Posted on 4/9/26 at 8:44 am to
I made that same observation a few days ago.
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
Member since Nov 2006
20074 posts
Posted on 4/9/26 at 8:45 am to
I've seen a few white ones growing up.
Posted by prouddawg
Member since Sep 2024
9060 posts
Posted on 4/9/26 at 8:47 am to
Our public school system will not expel students who make bond on crimes like aggravated assault with firearms and felony sex offenses, but will rather send them to the alternative school. So, they mix in dangerous thugs with kids who are there for comparably benign issues like vaping, alcohol, excessive absenteeism and fighting. I have voiced my opinion that the serious offenders should be expelled from the system to the superintendent and school board chair multiple times, and it falls on deaf ears. I am told the school system is still obligated to “serve” someone they expel which would tie up school personnel because they would have to meet with expelled students in a one on one setting, and the school doesn’t have resources to do that. That smells like BS to me; maybe someone in the education field can comment. Teachers tell me that the reality is the school loses funding when they kick out students, and that’s the true reason the schools cling to this idiotic and dangerous practice.

I put my child in a small Christian school and kind of chuckled when they expelled a kid for an offense that would have MAYBE gotten him put in ISS for 1-3 days in our public schools. I knew at that time I had made the right decision. I also appreciate the fact that the private school won’t tolerate non-criminal teacher misconduct like the public schools will. I’ve seen this private school let teachers go for stuff the public schools won’t/can’t even address.


This post was edited on 4/9/26 at 9:00 am
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
19987 posts
Posted on 4/9/26 at 8:47 am to
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decided to jump in and offer my insight (big mistake). I told her it was the system itself that's the issue. If a teacher can't control what goes in the classroom then that's a problem


Her leftist mind can’t handle two opposing thoughts. On the one hand she knows idiot kids from idiot parents are a problem, but she can’t admit that removing the from the environment is the solution.
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
72210 posts
Posted on 4/9/26 at 8:48 am to
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If you send your child to public school, you are committing child abuse. It’s that bad.



I realize LA public schools might give you that vibe, but its not like that everywhere

Around the ATL area there's some excellent public schools if you know where to live/look. There's also some great private schools if you have around $40k/yr to blow on just tuition.
This post was edited on 4/9/26 at 8:54 am
Posted by theballguy
HSV (Dealing only in satire)
Member since Oct 2011
36695 posts
Posted on 4/9/26 at 8:49 am to
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I was just taken back by someone is complaining about a system yet don't want real change.


When women complain they just want someone to cosign their bullshite.
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
17744 posts
Posted on 4/9/26 at 8:50 am to
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I've seen a few white ones growing up.


I have as well, but you can at least discipline most of the time and try to make the necessary changes so they have a brighter future. Do the same with the others and you’re a racist/bigot..
This post was edited on 4/9/26 at 8:51 am
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
Member since Nov 2006
20074 posts
Posted on 4/9/26 at 8:52 am to
Nah, she was obviously a Democrat bc she kept insisting that Republicans wanted to take over system. I told her nobody wants that headache. I went to public school from place as diverse as west indies and el paso to Birmingham inner city. I even referenced the wire season 4 to illustrate my point.
Posted by Norbert
Member since Oct 2018
3673 posts
Posted on 4/9/26 at 8:54 am to
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I was just taken back by someone is complaining about a system yet don't want real change.


Well, the smart ones leave teaching.

So, odds are you weren’t talking to a smart one.
Posted by cdur86
Member since Jan 2014
1738 posts
Posted on 4/9/26 at 8:55 am to
You can blame George W Bush for all this crap. The Leave No Child Behind handcuffed a lot of teachers
Posted by chaso
clinton ms.
Member since Aug 2006
3280 posts
Posted on 4/9/26 at 8:59 am to
Strictly downvoted for being a fan of the u of a??
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
17405 posts
Posted on 4/9/26 at 9:18 am to
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I mentioned a teacher should be able to expel a troublemaker from classroom on a longterm basis but she pushed back claiming it doesn't solve the issue.


I'd like to know how in the hell removing a troublemaker from a class doesn't solve the problem of interruptions from the troublemaker.

We had all this "remote" learning from Covid. Place the troublemakers in a separate area of the school from the rest of the students, hand them the remote learning equipment. 1st offense is a day. 2nd offense is a week. 3rd is a month. 4th is rest of the semester in their little area to themselves. Put the biggest bitch teacher in the county in charge of them. They also eat lunch alone in that room and get separate recess time.
This post was edited on 4/9/26 at 9:19 am
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57816 posts
Posted on 4/9/26 at 9:23 am to
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fricking screen the shite out of students before entering school. I don’t give a damn if it takes kids an extra 15 minutes to get into school if it keeps my kid safer. But by all means, please continue to train teachers on how to triage injured students and figure out which ones to “stop the bleed” for after a shooting happens.


Some "teachers" would rather not be inconvenienced for 15 minutes/day. Now the cost of that could be multiple children shot, and as they are triaging students, and wondering "what happened" and trying to blame gun manufacturers, 15 minutes of their lazy arse time is all it could have taken to prevent this.

Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
19266 posts
Posted on 4/9/26 at 9:40 am to
They just want to be paid double and do half the work. They feel entitled because society has put teachers on a pedestal for so long. The reason for that being completely unknown as they are hardly special in what they do.
Posted by Sweep Da Leg
Member since Sep 2013
3376 posts
Posted on 4/9/26 at 10:15 am to
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I'd like to know how in the hell removing a troublemaker from a class doesn't solve the problem of interruptions from the troublemaker. We had all this "remote" learning from Covid. Place the troublemakers in a separate area of the school from the rest of the students, hand them the remote learning equipment. 1st offense is a day. 2nd offense is a week. 3rd is a month. 4th is rest of the semester in their little area to themselves. Put the biggest bitch teacher in the county in charge of them. They also eat lunch alone in that room and get separate recess time.


This. We had in school suspension growing up so little shits didn’t get a vacation when suspended and had to sit in a windowless portable building doing their schoolwork all day with escorted bathroom breaks and lunch away from the others. I had it a few times and it sucked.

But as it’s been mentioned before this all goes back to GW with the no kid left behind and then put in hyperdrive under Obama making rules that your funding gets cut if too many black kids get disciplined.
This post was edited on 4/9/26 at 10:17 am
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
60884 posts
Posted on 4/9/26 at 10:30 am to
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If only it were that easy

It can be. It just takes people willing to make hard decisions.


Those people are needles in the haystack of public education. Almost no administrators are willing to do that because of the ridiculous amount of pushback that they get from central office. Anything that can be construed as making the “numbers” look bad is pretty much off the table when it comes to behavior. Also, in my experience, administrators are terrified of dealing with the insanity of today’s parents.
Posted by RohanGonzales
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Member since Apr 2024
10482 posts
Posted on 4/9/26 at 10:38 am to
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This never happened.


Well that is a splendid fricking argument
Posted by Judnnc
Member since Jun 2025
613 posts
Posted on 4/9/26 at 10:40 am to
Charters in cities are mostly woke, so if you can't afford private you have to pick your poison or homeschool.
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