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Jackalope
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re: Just overheard a guy say "slavery wasn't racist"
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(and because they thought black Africans were inferior to them


Wow, you're a frickin idiot. There were laws that used to be on the books, that you couldn't breed Irish with Blacks, because Irish stock was inferior to black stock. Irish slaves were treated very poorly. (Irish slaves are now called indentured servants in your revisionist textbooks).


Plx1776
Member since Oct 2017
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re: Just overheard a guy say "slavery wasn't racist"
Slavery is about people with power using the people that have no power. There have been white slaves, black slaves.

Black slave gatherers in Africa didn't round up other black people to sell into slavery because they hated black people.. it was because they had the power to do so.

They saw a market and they took advantage of it by gathering and selling their countrymen that had no power.

Black slave owners didn't own black slaves because they hated black people.. they owned black slaves because they had the power to do so.

Same thing is applied to white slave owners.

Even today. In other countries, those with power buy and sell those with no power. Look at libya.

It's not race related. It's power related.

Luckily, we've(usa) laws now, to prevent people with power from literally owning those without power.
This post was edited on 2/9 at 3:51 pm


Volatile
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Tennessee
Member since Apr 2014
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re: Just overheard a guy say "slavery wasn't racist"
Indentured servitude was not chattel slavery.

Holy fricking shite.

Was it shitty? You betcha. But after their seven years were up they could walk away.


Jackalope
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re: Just overheard a guy say "slavery wasn't racist"
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Was it shitty? You betcha. But after their seven years were up they could walk away


False. Less than half of whites had indentured servitude contracts.


Volatile
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Tennessee
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re: Just overheard a guy say "slavery wasn't racist"
You’re gonna have to do better than just pulling shite out of your ass.

And no, penal colonies don’t count.


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Big Scrub TX
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re: Just overheard a guy say "slavery wasn't racist"
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Slavery was not about racism. What is so funny?
American slavery morphed into something that was uniquely about racism.


LongueCarabine
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re: Just overheard a guy say "slavery wasn't racist"
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Sitting in the waiting room at the doc and this old baw is going on with his buddy about black lives matter and shite. Then he busts out the line that slavery wasn't racist because white people have been enslaved too


Anybody can make up shite.


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Terry the Tiger
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re: Just overheard a guy say "slavery wasn't racist"
Lybians are selling slaves now and none of those involved are white.


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Ace Midnight
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re: Just overheard a guy say "slavery wasn't racist"
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American slavery morphed into something that was uniquely about racism.


This is a solid point, but it only further illustrates how complex and (in a sad way, so we're clear) fascinating this entire issue is to discuss an analyze. Sadly, most Americans just aren't up to it. Collectively, we're pretty lazy, intellectually, and are much happier being spoon fed simple (yet horribly wrong) answers.


MrCarton
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Member since Dec 2009
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re: Just overheard a guy say "slavery wasn't racist"
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There were laws that used to be on the books, that you couldn't breed Irish with Blacks, because Irish stock was inferior to black stock


So facts are racist now?


Ba dum chi


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Big Scrub TX
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Austin
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re: Just overheard a guy say "slavery wasn't racist"
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This is a solid point, but it only further illustrates how complex and (in a sad way, so we're clear) fascinating this entire issue is to discuss an analyze. Sadly, most Americans just aren't up to it. Collectively, we're pretty lazy, intellectually, and are much happier being spoon fed simple (yet horribly wrong) answers.


What discussion are you looking for? Yes, there were some black slave owners and white indentured servants. So what? The entire institution was a horrible blight on humanity - and particularly for a country nominally dedicated to and founded upon "individual freedom". No amount of parsing or searching for deeper meaning can ever change that fact.

I understand that you are adult enough to have the conversation, but your hand-wringing mostly only gives cover to those sorts who would like to get bent out of shape because someone said American slavery was racist.


Ace Midnight
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re: Just overheard a guy say "slavery wasn't racist"
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What discussion are you looking for?


I've been quite clear - something beyond, "White southerners = bad; everyone else = clean hands" - as long as you concede that's bull shite (and I think you will), then we're good to go.

White southerners and the freed slaves/their descendants seem to be the only folks considered, when American chattel slavery was in fact a global issue.


Big Scrub TX
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re: Just overheard a guy say "slavery wasn't racist"
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I've been quite clear - something beyond, "White southerners = bad; everyone else = clean hands" - as long as you concede that's bull shite (and I think you will), then we're good to go.


Yes, it's bull shite. More accurate would be:

White southerners = bad; everyone else = mostly bad but with a significant minority of much, much, much better than white southerners. I think you'll agree that part of the problem is that a lot of white southerners won't even agree to the "white southerners = bad" part of the equation no matter what the rest says.

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White southerners and the freed slaves/their descendants seem to be the only folks considered, when American chattel slavery was in fact a global issue.


Yes, northern banks in particular, IMO.


FlatLakeTiger
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New Orleans
Member since Nov 2015
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re: Just overheard a guy say "slavery wasn't racist"
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Sitting in the waiting room at the doc and this old baw is going on with his buddy about black lives matter and shite. Then he busts out the line that slavery wasn't racist because white people have been enslaved too


TWENTY-NINE PLANTATIONS were owned by Free Men of Color prior to the Civil War and slaves were owned and used.

Slavery wasn't racist, it was economic.


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Ace Midnight
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re: Just overheard a guy say "slavery wasn't racist"
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Yes, northern banks in particular, IMO.



And textile mills, railroads, anyone using timber, food or other raw materials produced in the South, while pretending they were superior to those actually engaging in slavery...

The North was neck deep in slavery, the South was drowning in it - a subtle difference, I suppose, but I'm not sure how important it was. Certainly the South paid for it. And paid for it and paid for it and paid for it.


Humanelement
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Baton Rouge
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re: Just overheard a guy say "slavery wasn't racist"
Slavery in the US of African males was originally about wealth and power. It was certainly rooted in racist beliefs or it would have never been allowed. That seems fairly easy to understand in the simplest of terms.


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Big Scrub TX
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Austin
Member since Dec 2013
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re: Just overheard a guy say "slavery wasn't racist"
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Certainly the South paid for it. And paid for it and paid for it and paid for it.
I disagree. I think the Civil War is one of the few (if not the only) wars where the losers got to write the history.


Bayou
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Arizona Desert
Member since Feb 2005
28327 posts

re: Just overheard a guy say "slavery wasn't racist"
Is a white person from Africa still African-American or are you going to pull the racce card and tell me only a Black person from Africa can legitimately be an African-American. If so, you are racist by your own definition.


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Squid
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re: Just overheard a guy say "slavery wasn't racist"
I'm really going to miss the word "baw" when posters stop using it. It's almost as awesome as " broseph " was.


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carnuba
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tickfaw
Member since Jan 2009
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re: Just overheard a guy say "slavery wasn't racist"
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If we enslaved the Irish today, guess what? It would be fricking racist.


except being irish isn't a race
it's a nationality


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