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re: Just curious as to who believes in aliens/UFOs coverup

Posted on 7/20/17 at 5:34 pm to
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
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Posted on 7/20/17 at 5:34 pm to
You have been great ITT baw

The shite found in rocks, 300 million years carbon dated and older to me is proof that carbon dating is flawed

And that men had higher Tech than was previously believed...
Posted by Jake88
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Posted on 7/20/17 at 5:58 pm to
Most of those pics look bogus. How do we know they were found where it's said they were found? The bell, the microchip, the hammers, the footprint(with no erosion), the medallion with the large headed alien are most assuredly bullshite.
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
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Posted on 7/20/17 at 6:21 pm to
Here's more photos of weird stuff.

24 angles stones at Sacsaywaman-Cuzco, Peru. A piece of paper won't slide into the joints of the stonework


An artifact found at the base of Hidden Mountain, Nevada with an inscription proclaiming the Ten Commandments in ancient Paleo-Hebrew characters. Evidence that ancient Old World civilizations explored and settled in North America before the arrival of Columbus. Possibly connected to the reign of King Solomon kingdom of Israel


A fossilized handprint found in Limestone at Glen Rose. Limestone is dated to the Middle Cretaceous period which makes it 110 million years old


Mysterious metal spheres with 3 parallel lines dug up by miners in South Africa. The rock in which they were found is Precambian and dated to 2.8 billion years old. Yep, that's 2.8 billion years old
This post was edited on 7/20/17 at 8:57 pm
Posted by DawgfaninCa
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Posted on 7/20/17 at 6:28 pm to
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Most of those pics look bogus. How do we know they were found where it's said they were found? The bell, the microchip, the hammers, the footprint(with no erosion), the medallion with the large headed alien are most assuredly bullshite.


All the details about the out of place objects, footprints, medallions, etc. discovered have been recorded.

However, I expect skeptics to deny they are authentic objects but that's the skeptics job to prove.

In any case, they are interesting to view and discuss.
Posted by DawgfaninCa
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Posted on 7/20/17 at 7:15 pm to
Here's more photos of weird stuff.

Another screw found in a 200 million year old rock


300 million year old machinery found in Russia. Experts say the aluminum gear was not made by natural forces


Fossil footprint in rock supposedly millions of years old


Gold model of airplane found somewhere in South or Central America estimated to be at least 1000 years old


Largest ancient stone block construction in the world found in eastern Lebanon at Baalbek


Ancient mysterious holes "carved" into stone found in Norway


An ancient Mayan depiction of UFOs entering and exiting through the sun. It even shows an ancient alien astronaut in its craft


An Aztec origin object found in Ojuelos de Jalisco, Mexico


A torso sized engraved granite boulder with mortar filled engraved lines found in Ecuador possibly the oldest known map representing the continents of the world, a global rendering from the Pleistocene


Rock with manmade-like electrical-like component embedded in it


Sumerian tablet with winged disk in upper left of tablet


Approximately 5,000 year old enigmatic stone "balls" discovered at the Neolithic village of Skara Brae, Orkney, Scotland


6000 year old spaceship carved in stone


The Baltic Sea Anomaly

LINK
This post was edited on 7/20/17 at 7:20 pm
Posted by kingbob
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Posted on 7/20/17 at 7:25 pm to
It is very clear to me that our dating techniques are very very flawed somehow.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
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Posted on 7/20/17 at 8:37 pm to
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If the universe is teeming with millions upon millions of alien species of advanced existences, then why have we never been visited? Why don't our telescopes see them?


Telescopes seeing.. a spacecraft in the vastness of space? You're also supposing that alien life hasn't visited this planet.. ever
This post was edited on 7/20/17 at 8:38 pm
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
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Posted on 7/20/17 at 8:45 pm to
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It is very clear to me that our dating techniques are very very flawed somehow.

Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
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Posted on 7/20/17 at 9:10 pm to
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Of course, you will say all of those people were lying.

Didnt read all that - but what is the allegation? That someone tried to drill into the coal strata? OR that the drill bit was there when the coal formed.

The latter makes no sense because while the coal was forming there would be no need to drill.

Occam would suggest that this is some accident of circumstance.
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 7/20/17 at 9:32 pm to
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Didnt read all that - but what is the allegation? That someone tried to drill into the coal strata? OR that the drill bit was there when the coal formed.


Well read all that then get back to me.


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Occam would suggest that this is some accident of circumstance.


Occam's Razor only suggests the most likely known explanation but that does not mean it is the actual explanation.

Look at all of the other photos I posted after that example of more out of place objects then you can tell me what's the most likely explanation for each of them occurring.
This post was edited on 7/20/17 at 9:35 pm
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 7/20/17 at 9:39 pm to
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Reddit post on top secret leaked doc


I know nothing about this document but I will bet it's a fake. This wouldn't be the first "top secret" document that has been faked in the UFO world. The "MAJESTIC 12" documents are widely known to be fakes -- clever fakes, but still fakes.
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 7/20/17 at 10:40 pm to
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I know nothing about this document but I will bet it's a fake. This wouldn't be the first "top secret" document that has been faked in the UFO world. The "MAJESTIC 12" documents are widely known to be fakes -- clever fakes, but still fakes.


Debunkers are like the presstitutes in the MSM spreading their fake news about President Trump colluding with the Russians.

Debunkers say that something was proven to be a fake but they never produce the evidence that proves it was proven to be a fake.
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
In a sea of cognitive dissonance
Member since Mar 2013
11092 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 11:58 pm to
Add this to the list of "old tech"

I believe we are the results of multiple near complete reboots of civilization





LINK

quote:



Clay tablet holds clue to asteroid mystery
By Nic Fleming, Science Correspondent
12:01AM BST 31 Mar 2008

British scientists have deciphered a mysterious ancient clay tablet and believe they have solved a riddle over a giant asteroid impact more than 5,000 years ago.

Geologists have long puzzled over the shape of the land close to the town of Köfels in the Austrian Alps, but were unable to prove it had been caused by an asteroid.

Now researchers say their translation of symbols on a star map from an ancient civilisation includes notes on a mile-wide asteroid that later hit Earth - which could have caused tens of thousands of deaths. The circular clay tablet was discovered 150 years ago by Sir Austen Henry Layard, a leading Victorian archaeologist, in the remains of the royal palace at Nineveh, capital of ancient Assyria, in what is now Iraq.
Posted by BamaAtl
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Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 7/21/17 at 6:58 am to
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Sounds like you are saying it is a hoax and everyone was lying


Not everyone, just the guy who initially 'found' the item.
Posted by BamaAtl
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Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 7/21/17 at 6:59 am to
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it has some fascinating insights into the fallen angels and how they taught humans how to do a lot of things like make weapons out of metal and medicines from herbs and plants.


Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
43008 posts
Posted on 7/21/17 at 8:44 am to
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Well read all that then get back to me.

I struggled thru the writeup associated with the "screw embedded in 300 million year old stone."

The translation from the original Russian(?) is almost unreadable. So much that I won't try to offer commentary on their statements.

BUT - I did not see where they determined what the screw was made of. Was it metal? if so how did it survive the process that creates stone without deformation from pressure or melting from temperature?

IF not metal, then what? Of what use is a screw made of stone?

IT is such a oddity - an oddity with no purpose - that I cannot afford it any credence until some compelling narrative is established that would associate it with something reasonable.

I did not spend any more time on the other 'things found.'

To me the easiest explanation for these items is some kind of manipulation or creation by the 'finders.'

Now having said all that - I am extremely impressed by the stone work you presented - some of which I had not seen before. The intricate joinery belies ancient capabilities as I know them to be. These things actually exist and cannot be claimed to be modern attempts to plant 'evidence.'

I cannot imagine how they could have been created without some extra-native capabilities from somewhere by someone.

These things are of great interest to me.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
43008 posts
Posted on 7/21/17 at 8:52 am to
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British scientists have deciphered a mysterious ancient clay tablet and believe they have solved a riddle over a giant asteroid impact more than 5,000 years ag

I saw a reference to this tablet once on a History Channel program on (I think) the destruction of Sodom and Ghomarra. IIRC the 'fire and brimstone' was a result of fallout from this meteor striking somewhere in the Alps.

Never saw it reverenced again - thanks for the Link.

eta - from your link
quote:

"It is probable more people died under the plume than in the Alps due to the impact blast."
This post was edited on 7/21/17 at 8:56 am
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 7/21/17 at 9:47 am to
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Sounds like you are saying it is a hoax and everyone was lying


quote:

Not everyone, just the guy who initially 'found' the item.


Let's look at the testimony of John Buchanan, Esq.

quote:

To explain particulars, I beg to mention, that a new line of road, called the Great Western Road, was opened a few years ago, leading to the Botanic Gardens, which, you may be aware, are situated about two miles northwest from Glasgow. At a point on this new road are the lands of Burnbank, now in course of being extensively built upon. The person conducting these building operations is Mr. Robert Lindsay, wright and builder, a most respectable individual, well known to me, and on whose veracity implicit confidence may be placed. Now, when Mr. Lindsay came to excavate the foundations along the north side of the road for the range of houses, he cut through a bed of diluvium or clay mixed with boulders, seven feet thick, and then came on a seam of coal about twenty-two inches thick, cropping out almost to the very surface, and resting on freestone. It was necessary to remove this coal and cut into the stone below, which last was very opportune for building purposes.

A quantity of the coal so removed was carted over to Mr. Lindsay’s workshop or yard for use; and while his nephew, Robert Lindsay junior, an apprentice, was breaking up a block of the coal, he was surprised to find the iron instrument now sent in the very heart of it. At first, neither he nor the others about him could make out what it was, but after scraping and cleaning it from the coaly coating, it presented the appearance now before you.


In order for Mr. Lindsey's nephew, Robert Lindsay junior, to pull off a hoax on his own, he would have had to have a screw that was already coated in coal and pretend to find it in the seam of coal.

If it was a hoax, it is more likely that all of the people who claimed to be present when the screw was discovered were part of the hoax.

Maybe that is the case but we will never know the truth so skeptics like you want to bury this incident in what Charles Fort called "The Book of the Damned" which Fort discussed in his book entitled, The Book of the Damned.

quote:

The title of the book referred to what he termed the "damned" data - data which had been damned, or excluded, by modern science because of its not conforming to accepted belief. Fort charged that mainstream scientists are conformists who believe in what is accepted and popular, and never really search for truth that may be contrary to what they believe. He also compared the close-mindedness of many scientists to that of religious fundamentalists, implying that the supposed "battle" between science and religion is just a distraction for the fact that, in his opinion, science is, in essence, simply a de facto religion.


This post was edited on 7/21/17 at 9:52 am
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 7/21/17 at 9:54 am to
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It is very clear to me that our dating techniques are very very flawed somehow.
Dude... consensus...
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22023 posts
Posted on 7/21/17 at 9:58 am to
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It is very clear to me that our dating techniques are very very flawed somehow.


In what way(s)? Because those are the same principles that drive nuclear weapons, or nuclear reactors.
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