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re: Just curious as to who believes in aliens/UFOs coverup
Posted on 7/19/17 at 10:09 am to BamaAtl
Posted on 7/19/17 at 10:09 am to BamaAtl
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based on measurements taken on the northeastern casing stones, explain to me how the ancient builders of the Great Pyramid were able to build and put those northeastern casing stones into place so the mean opening of the joints is only 0.5 millimetre wide (1/50 of an inch).
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Time, money, and access to cheap / free labor.
That doesn't explain how it was done.
If it was done by your explanation, how did the "cheap/free labor" do it?
This post was edited on 7/19/17 at 10:11 am
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Posted on 7/19/17 at 10:22 am to BamaAtl
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1)The pyramid is estimated to have around 2,300,000 stone blocks that weigh from 2 to 30 tons each and there are even some blocks that weigh over 50 tons.
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And? It's been shown that ramps / sledges could have easily handled transportation.
It hasn't been "shown" that ramps/sledges was the way the blocks were lifted to the upper portions of the Great Pyramid.
It has only been suggested that was possibly the way it was done and it has been shown that it would be more work to do it that way than to build the Great Pyramid itself.
Posted on 7/19/17 at 11:16 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
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If the universe is teeming with millions upon millions of alien species of advanced existences, then why have we never been visited? Why don't our telescopes see them?
Go look at the night sky with NVGs for a few hours...weird shite...There's a guy on YouTube that films it...because IR is a broader wavelength than visible light, NVGs spot stuff all the time
If we have the ability to hide and cloak aircraft, don't you think advanced beings could as well?
This post was edited on 7/19/17 at 11:16 am
Posted on 7/19/17 at 11:36 am to dcbl
Here's some 4chan fiction that says the races come from different planets.
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/133288057/#133288057
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/133288057/#133288057
Posted on 7/19/17 at 1:31 pm to DawgfaninCa
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t has only been suggested that was possibly the way it was done
If it can be done without supernatural means, then you claiming it had to have been supernatural shows only your stupidity.
Posted on 7/19/17 at 5:27 pm to BamaAtl
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t has only been suggested that was possibly the way it was done
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If it can be done without supernatural means, then you claiming it had to have been supernatural shows only your stupidity.
Meh, if you or anyone else can explain to me how the Great Pyramid was actually built using only the tools and technological knowledge that the ancient Egyptians had available to them at the time the Great Pyramid was supposedly built then I will be more than glad to accept that explanation.
Resorting to insulting my intelligence is not evidence that explains how the Great Pyramid was actually built using only the tools and technological knowledge that the ancient Egyptians had available to them at the time the Great Pyramid was supposedly built.
Until then, the evidence I have seen with my own eyes suggests to me that some tools and advanced technological knowledge which scientists claim were unknown to ancient Egyptians were used to build the Great Pyramid.
Until you or anyone else can prove to me the Great Pyramid was actually built by ancient Egyptians using only the tools and technological knowledge that scientists say were available to ancient Egyptians living at the time then I am open to the possibility the Great Pyramid was built by an unknown ancient civilization or extraterrestrials.
That's called having an open mind which is something you obviously don't have.
This post was edited on 7/19/17 at 5:29 pm
Posted on 7/19/17 at 6:17 pm to BamaAtl
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1)The pyramid is estimated to have around 2,300,000 stone blocks that weigh from 2 to 30 tons each and there are even some blocks that weigh over 50 tons.
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And? It's been shown that ramps / sledges could have easily handled transportation.
That's been disproved. The long ramp model "proposes that there was one ramp on a single side of the pyramid. As more blocks were brought to the top, the ramp was lengthened and raised so stones could be brought higher. It is important to note that if the slope of the ramp exceeded eight percent (approximately 8 to 12 degrees), the workers would be unable to drag the stones up the ramp (Smith 2004, 164). If the ramp adhered to this incline, for the ramp to reach the top of the pyramid, which is 481 feet tall, the ramp itself would be over one mile long (Brier2007, 23). The first issue with this proposed model is that there is simply no room on the Giza plateau for a ramp of this length. As the pyramid was being built, two cemeteries for nobility were being constructed simultaneously on the east and west sides of the pyramid (Brier and Houdin 2008, 122). On the north side, the land has a steep slope, unsuitable for a ramp, leaving the south side as the only possible face for this long ramp. To date, no remains of a ramp have been found on the south side (Brier and Houdin 2008, 122). The second problem is the amount of materials required to build this massive ramp. The volume of the stones alone would about equal or surpass the volume of the stones needed to build the pyramid itself (Brier 2007, 23)."
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Another type of ramp is the spiral ramp model. Using "this model, the ramp would wrap around the pyramid in a spiral. This model eliminates the need for the mile long ramp required by the long ramp model, as well as explains the lack of ramp remains. However, some major issues arise. First, the corners of the pyramid would be obscured by the ramp (Brier 2007, 24). To ensure that the pyramid edges all meet at a single point, Hemienu and the architects needed to monitor the angles of the pyramid faces and constantly be making measurements. With the ramp spiraling up the pyramid on its exterior, this task would have been extremely difficult, almost impossible (Brier and Houdin 2008, 124).
The completion time would have been another problem, as the ramp would have been fairly narrow, making it difficult for two groups to use the ramp at the same time, one bringing up the stones and one bringing the sleds down (Petroski 2004, 218). The limited carrying capacity of this ramp would have led to a slower construction schedule; the pyramid took at most 23 years to build (Müller-Römer 2008, 123). The application of the limestone casing posed another problem, as it required scaffolding (Müller-Römer 2008, 123).
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The only other type of ramp that has been suggested was an internal ramp which is very complicated to build and has not been proven to have been what was used to build the Great Pyramid.
I'll discuss the use of an internal ramp in my next post.
This post was edited on 7/20/17 at 2:17 pm
Posted on 7/19/17 at 6:34 pm to DawgfaninCa
The internal ramp theory was suggested In 2003 by Jean-Pierre Houdin, a French architect. "Working with software from Dassault Systèmes, a French 3D software developing company (Brier 2009, 29), Houdin created 3D computer models of the Great Pyramid and its internal ramps, which Houdin believes are still in tact (Brier 2007. 24). For the bottom third of the pyramid, the long ramp model was used (Brier 2007, 24). This ramp only needed to reach a height of approximately 160 feet, so the length of the ramp did not extend as far as proposed in the long ramp model. This exterior ramp was made of small limestone blocks that, after the external ramp was dismantled, were used for the top layers of the pyramid (Brier and Houdin 2008, 139). As construction was underway at the bottom of the pyramid via this external ramp, the internal ramp was being built simultaneously (Brier 2007, 24). Starting at the bottom of the pyramid, Houdin believes that the internal ramp is around six feet wide with a grade of approximately seven percent (Brier 2007, 25). For constructing the two of the three chambers in the Great Pyramid, the King’s Chamber and the Queen’s Chamber (a third chamber was carved into the bedrock beneath the pyramid for use if Khufu died before construction was completed), large granite and limestone blocks formed the roof beams and rafters. The weight of some of these beams was over 60 tons and the beams would not have fit on the six-foot wide internal ramp, so the external ramp continued to be used (Brier 2007, 25). After the internal chambers were completed, the external ramp was dismantled and its blocks were used in the construction of the top two-thirds of the pyramid, explaining why no remains of an external ramp have been found by field observations, stereoscopic aerial photos, or satellite images (Klemm and Klemm 2010, 83). Houdin believes that the blocks used to make the external ramp were smaller, for easier transport up the narrow internal ramp (Brier 2007, 25). In building this internal ramp, Hemienu had to be careful to avoid hitting the other internal passageways and chambers. Another consideration was the ability of the workers to maneuver the stones around the corners of the pyramid. Turning the blocks 90-degrees was therefore aided, Houdin believes, by wooden cranes that were placed in openings of the ramp (Brier 2009, 28). Ancient Egyptians were familiar with the concept of cranes; they used shadoufs, devices that lifted water from the Nile. It is possible that this device was adapted for the construction of the pyramid (Brier and Houdin 2008, 130). Another mechanism for turning stones could be related to the bearing stones found at Giza that date to the Old Kingdom. The stone was inserted into pole, and ropes were used to pull an object and change its direction from 45 to 90 degrees (Arnold 1991, 282)...The wait for the approval of the Supreme Council of Antiquities on the proposed nondestructive survey of the Great Pyramid is ongoing. We are, therefore, still unable to conclusively determine the ramp model used for construction. The microgravimetric survey is promising, and the internal ramp could explain the anomalies the French team found. The internal ramp at Abu Gurob strengthens the internal ramp theory, as this construction technique could have also been used at the Great Pyramid. We can, however, reason that the long ramp and spiral ramp models were not used, due to the excess of material and lack of space on the Giza plateau in the case of the single ramp and the design flaws of the spiral model. Currently, without any records or concrete evidence of how the Great Pyramid was built, archaeologists can only speculate on the construction method used by the ancient Egyptians. Even without the approval of the Supreme Council of Antiquities, the internal ramp theory proposed by Jean-Pierre Houdin resolves the problems presented in past theories. Hopefully, the nondestructive survey will soon be approved, and this theory can either be put to rest, putting archaeologists back to square one, or be proven, solving a mystery that has puzzled scholars for thousands of years."
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In other words, it has not yet been proven as a fact that an internal ramp was used to build the Great Pyramid and it is still just a theory.
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In other words, it has not yet been proven as a fact that an internal ramp was used to build the Great Pyramid and it is still just a theory.
This post was edited on 7/19/17 at 6:57 pm
Posted on 7/19/17 at 7:55 pm to BamaAtl
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2)The Pyramid of Menkaure, the Pyramid of Khafre and the Great Pyramid of Khufu are precisely aligned with the Constellation of Orion.
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Aligned how? The constellation has changed over the years. It's also no big shock that ancient civilizations took cues from the stars.
According to wikipedia:
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The Orion correlation theory (or Giza–Orion correlation theory)[1] is a hypothesis in alternative Egyptology. Its central claim is that there is a correlation between the location of the three largest pyramids of the Giza pyramid complex and Orion's Belt of the constellation Orion, and that this correlation was intended as such by the builders of the pyramids. The stars of Orion were associated with Osiris, the god of rebirth and afterlife, by the ancient Egyptians.[2][3][4] Depending on the version of the theory, additional pyramids can be included to complete the picture of the Orion constellation, and the Nile river can be included to match with the Milky Way galaxy.
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3)The base of the pyramid covers 55,000 m2 (592,000 ft 2) with each side greater than 20,000 m2 (218,000 ft2) in area.
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That's not supernatural.
I didn't say it was supernatural. I just said it was one of 25 facts about the Great Pyramid.
However, a base that covers 592,000 square feet is huge but I'll give you this one.
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4)The interior temperature is constant and equals the average temperature of the earth, 20 Degrees Celsius (68 Degrees Fahrenheit).
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Because when you use that much stone, you're basically in the earth when you're in the middle of it. Stone insulates like other stone?! You don't say...
It's an interesting fact but I'll give you that one too.
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5)The outer mantle was composed of 144,000 casing stones, all of them highly polished and flat to an accuracy of 1/100th of an inch, about 100 inches thick and weighing approx. 15 tons each.
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Not supernatural, just good engineering/skilled craftsmen
Explain how it was done by good engineering/skilled craftsmen.
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6)The cornerstone foundations of the pyramid have ball and socket construction capable of dealing with heat expansion and earthquakes.
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How is that supernatural? Are you saying there was no knowledge of earthquakes in ancient times?
I didn't say it was supernatural. I'm sure Ancient Egyptians knew about earthquakes but show me any other Egyptian pyramids or buildings that used ball and socket construction capable of dealing with heat expansion and earthquakes.
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7)The mortar used is of an unknown origin (Yes, no explanation was given). It has been analyzed, and its chemical composition is known, but it can’t be reproduced. It is stronger than the stone and still holding up today.
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We didn't know how to recreate Roman concrete until recently. That doesn't mean Roman concrete was given to them by aliens - only that we didn't know the exact recipe/method.
It means whoever built the Great Pyramids had knowledge that we don't have today.
Where and when they got that knowledge is also unknown to science.
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8)It was originally covered with casing stones (made of highly polished limestone). These casing stones reflected the sun’s light and made the pyramid shine like a jewel. They are no longer presently being used by Arabs to build mosques after an earthquake in the 14th century loosened many of them. It has been calculated that the original pyramid with its casing stones would act like gigantic mirrors and reflect light so powerful that it would be visible from the moon as a shining star on earth. Appropriately, the ancient Egyptians called the Great Pyramid “Ikhet”, meaning the “Glorious Light”. How these blocks were transported and assembled into the pyramid is still a mystery. – LINK
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The same way other blocks were transported / assembled into the pyramid. Sledges/ramps
I've already shown it's not a proven fact that sledges/ramps were used to build the Great Pyramid.
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9)Aligned True North: The Great Pyramid is the most accurately aligned structure in existence and faces true north with only 3/60th of a degree of error. The position of the North Pole moves over time and the pyramid was exactly aligned at one time.
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Ancient people loved them some magnets.
Magnets only show where the magnetic North Pole is not where the true North Pole is.
(to be continued)
Posted on 7/19/17 at 8:49 pm to BamaAtl
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10)Center of Land Mass: The Great Pyramid is located at the center of the land mass of the earth. The east/west parallel that crosses the most land and the north/south meridian that crosses the most land intersect in two places on the earth, one in the ocean and the other at the Great Pyramid.
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"The center of the land mass of the earth" is perhaps the stupidest phrase you've ever put here, and you've got a long list of potentials for that award.
Obviously, "The center of the land mass of the earth" changes as land erodes or is created so I'll give you this one.
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11)The four faces of the pyramid are slightly concave, the only pyramid to have been built this way.
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So only the largest pyramid experienced a specific type of settling caused by gravity? Shocking.
Prove it was caused by gravity.
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12)The centers of the four sides are indented with an extraordinary degree of precision forming the only 8 sided pyramid; this effect is not visible from the ground or from a distance but only from the air, and then only under the proper lighting conditions. This phenomenon is only detectable from the air at dawn and sunset on the spring and autumn equinoxes, when the sun casts shadows on the pyramid.
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Not supernatural
Explain how it was done so that the lines in the center of the four sides can only be seen from the air at dawn and sunset on the spring and autumn equinoxes, when the sun casts shadows on the pyramid.
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13)The granite coffer in the “King’s Chamber” is too big to fit through the passages and so it must have been put in place during construction.
14)The coffer was made out of a block of solid granite. This would have required bronze saws 8-9 ft. long set with teeth of sapphires. Hollowing out of the interior would require tubular drills of the same material applied with a tremendous vertical force.
15)Microscopic analysis of the coffer reveals that it was made with a fixed point drill that used hard jewel bits and a drilling force of 2 tons.
16)The Great Pyramid had a swivel door entrance at one time. Swivel doors were found in only two other pyramids: Khufu’s father and grandfather, Sneferu and Huni, respectively.
17)It is reported that when the pyramid was first broken into that the swivel door, weighing some 20 tons, was so well balanced that it could be opened by pushing out from the inside with only minimal force, but when closed, was so perfect a fit that it could scarcely be detected and there was not enough crack or crevice around the edges to gain a grasp from the outside.
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Not supernatural
Then explain how each of those things were done.
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18)With the mantle in place, the Great Pyramid could be seen from the mountains in Israel and probably the moon as well.
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So the Great Pyramid is big? Shocking
Explain how ancient Egyptians could make something so big using only the tools and technological knowledge that we know were available to them at the time the Great Pyramid supposedly was built.
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19)The weight of the pyramid is estimated at 5,955,000 tons. Multiplied by 10^8 gives a reasonable estimate of the earth’s mass.
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Multiply anything by some randomly large number and you get a 'reasonable estimate of the earth's mass'
I don't know why 10^8 was picked but it's the same number that was used in fact #22 which determined that twice the perimeter of the bottom of the granite coffer times 10^8 is the sun’s mean radius. [270.45378502 Pyramid Inches* 10^8 = 427,316 miles]
Is it just a coincidence that the Great Pyramid was built a certain size so using 10^8 would give those two results?
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20)The Descending Passage pointed to the pole star Alpha Draconis, circa 2170-2144 BCE. This was the North Star at that point in time. No other star has aligned with the passage since then.
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So they aligned the passage with what was at the time the location of the brightest star in the sky? Oh noooooo
Explain the method they used to align the passage with what was at the time the location of the brightest star in the sky.
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22)Sun’s Radius: Twice the perimeter of the bottom of the granite coffer times 10^8 is the sun’s mean radius. [270.45378502 Pyramid Inches* 10^8 = 427,316 miles]
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Why twice the perimeter? That seems like a poor use of magical ratios by the aliens.
See my answer to fact #19.
Besides, I never said it was definitely aliens or extraterrestrials who built the Great Pyramid. I said it could also have been an unknown highly advanced ancient civilization.
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23)The curvature designed into the faces of the pyramid exactly matches the radius of the earth.
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No, they don't
I don't know how fact #23 was proven to be true but if you can prove that fact #23 is not true than I'll agree with you.
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24)Khufu’s pyramid, known as the great pyramid of Giza, is the oldest and largest, rising at 481 feet (146 meters). Archeologists say it was the tallest structure in the world for about 3, 800 years.
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Not supernatural
Explain how the Great Pyramid was built using only the tools and technological knowledge that was available to the ancient Egyptians at the time the Great Pyramid was supposedly built.
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25)The relationship between Pi (p) and Phi (F) is expressed in the fundamental proportions of the Great Pyramid.
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So they used basic math to build the largest structure in the world? You don't say...
Explain how the ancient Egyptians were able to build something as big as the Great Pyramids so that The relationship between Pi (p) and Phi (F) is expressed in the fundamental proportions of the Great Pyramid.
Posted on 7/20/17 at 9:13 am to DawgfaninCa
I thought this was interesting since we are discussing the possibilities of an aliens/UFOs coverup.
California Republican Dana Rohrabacher asked experts from NASA whether "it is possible that an 'Alien Civilization' inhabited Mars 'thousands of years ago' and whether they could rule that out?"
LINK
California Republican Dana Rohrabacher asked experts from NASA whether "it is possible that an 'Alien Civilization' inhabited Mars 'thousands of years ago' and whether they could rule that out?"
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This post was edited on 7/20/17 at 9:18 am
Posted on 7/20/17 at 10:17 am to DawgfaninCa
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That doesn't explain how it was done.
Using tools.
Normal, non-supernatural or alien tools.
Posted on 7/20/17 at 10:37 am to DawgfaninCa
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I thought this was interesting since we are discussing the possibilities of an aliens/UFOs coverup.
I jumped in at the bottom of this thread with the intent of asking 'how come this thing is still being discussed?' = I think I have a response somewhere in the first few pages, but don't recall what it was now.
I became intrigued with your multi-part response just a few spots above this one.
I spent a few years of idle time looking into all the mathematical and astronomical congruencies with ancient Egyptian architecture, mostly Sphinx and Giza pyramids. My original intent was to find out how the golden ration Phi was used in its design, but I soon became distracted by all the other discoveries (for me) that were known. Some of the accuracies and alignments are scary-unexplainable.
I can not rule out some extra-terrestrial influence. If not that, we are surely at a loss to describe how they could accomplish such great precision and to what purpose they did it. And if it resulted from self-generated knowledge why was it that these great advances in technology/knowledge were not documented in some sort of permanent fashion.
I am still mystified at their accomplishments.
eta - oh - I forgot =
This post was edited on 7/20/17 at 10:40 am
Posted on 7/20/17 at 1:38 pm to BamaAtl
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That doesn't explain how it was done.
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Using tools.
Normal, non-supernatural or alien tools.
What were the specific normal, non-supernatural or alien tools that they used?
BTW, here is an article about a "Drill Bit" found embedded in a 22 inches thick seam of coal that formed hundreds of millions of years ago.
And before you say it was just a modern drill bit that broke off while drilling for coal,
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The curious artifact was presented at the meeting of the Society of Antiquaries of Scotland on Dec. 13, 1852 by John Buchanan, Esq who is quoted saying: “I quite agree in the generally received geological view, that the coal was formed long before man was introduced upon this planet; but the puzzle is, how this implement, confessedly of human hands, should have found its way into the coal seam, overlaid as the latter was by a heavy mass of diluvium and boulders.”
Recorded in the Society’s proceedings are fully quoted below.
According to Buchanan, the mystery artifact was discovered within a seam of coal that was about 22 inches thick. The coal was recovered from a stratum of clay mixed with rocks, around 7 feet thick.
Upon examination, the Society agreed that the instrument recovered from the coal was of a modern level of advancement, however, they concluded that “the iron instrument might have been part of a borer broken during some former search for coal,” because no other explanation could have explained its origin.
Basically, they said it’s impossible for the tool to exist because the coal that contained the instrument was millions of years old. Mankind isn’t that old.
Interestingly, Buchanan’s report did not include any signs that the coal surrounding the mystery object was punctured by drilling.
He perfectly described a mysterious instrument that was bewilderingly encapsulated by coal.
Details about the mysterious artifact are recorded in the December 13, 1852, Proceedings of the Society of Antiquaries of Scotland (Volume 1):
“A communication was then read from John Buchanan, Esq., relative to the discovery of an iron instrument, lately found embedded in a natural seam of coal in the neighborhood of Glasgow. The instrument which was exhibited to the Meeting was considered to be modern. In his communication, Mr. Buchanan remarks: ‘I send herewith, for the inspection of the Society, a very curious iron instrument found last week in this locality. The interest attaching to this singular relic arises from the fact of its having been discovered in the heart of a piece of coal, seven feet under the surface.
To explain particulars, I beg to mention, that a new line of road, called the Great Western Road, was opened a few years ago, leading to the Botanic Gardens, which, you may be aware, are situated about two miles northwest from Glasgow. At a point on this new road are the lands of Burnbank, now in course of being extensively built upon. The person conducting these building operations is Mr. Robert Lindsay, wright and builder, a most respectable individual, well known to me, and on whose veracity implicit confidence may be placed. Now, when Mr. Lindsay came to excavate the foundations along the north side of the road for the range of houses, he cut through a bed of diluvium or clay mixed with boulders, seven feet thick, and then came on a seam of coal about twenty-two inches thick, cropping out almost to the very surface, and resting on freestone. It was necessary to remove this coal and cut into the stone below, which last was very opportune for building purposes.
A quantity of the coal so removed was carted over to Mr. Lindsay’s workshop or yard for use; and while his nephew, Robert Lindsay junior, an apprentice, was breaking up a block of the coal, he was surprised to find the iron instrument now sent in the very heart of it. At first, neither he nor the others about him could make out what it was, but after scraping and cleaning it from the coaly coating, it presented the appearance now before you. I send along with it a portion of the coal. Having been made aware of this discovery, I lost no time in seeing Mr. Lindsay senior; and accompanied him this day to the spot, and had the circumstances detailed to me by his nephew, and several of the respectable operatives who saw the instrument taken from the coal; and all of whom, Mr. Lindsay senior assures me, are persons whose statements may be implicitly relied upon.
The affidavits of five workmen who saw the iron instrument taken from the coal were also sent, and Mr. Buchanan further adds: ‘I quite agree in the generally received geological view, that the coal was formed long before man was introduced upon this planet; but the puzzle is, how this implement, confessedly of human hands, should have found its way into the coal seam, overlaid as the latter was by a heavy mass of diluvium and boulders. If the workmen who saw the relic disinterred are to be depended on (and I have no reason whatever to doubt their perfect veracity), then there may and must be some mode of accounting for the implement finding its way down eight or nine vertical feet from the surface.”
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Of course, you will say all of those people were lying.
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Posted on 7/20/17 at 2:23 pm to DawgfaninCa
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According to Buchanan
Sounds like Piltdown Man
Posted on 7/20/17 at 4:16 pm to BamaAtl
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According to Buchanan
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Sounds like Piltdown Man
Sounds like you are saying it is a hoax and everyone was lying which is what I said you would say because it is the only thing you could say to discredit the discovery.
Posted on 7/20/17 at 4:52 pm to DawgfaninCa
Like I said early in the thread, the evidence for advanced technology in antiquity is overwhelming
Deniers gonna deny
Deniers gonna deny
Posted on 7/20/17 at 5:03 pm to dcbl
quote:Even though the Book of Enoch is non-canonical in the Christian Bible (except for some Christian Orthodox groups), it has some fascinating insights into the fallen angels and how they taught humans how to do a lot of things like make weapons out of metal and medicines from herbs and plants. If such things happened, it's feasible that they also gave knowledge and technology to people that was later lost.
Like I said early in the thread, the evidence for advanced technology in antiquity is overwhelming
Deniers gonna deny
Posted on 7/20/17 at 5:10 pm to FooManChoo
Thanks for posting this, I find Enoch to be fascinating
Interestingly, passages from Enoch are actually referenced by Jesus in the NT...
Interestingly, passages from Enoch are actually referenced by Jesus in the NT...
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Posted on 7/20/17 at 5:20 pm to DawgfaninCa
Here's some photos of out of place objects found in rocks and other evidence of aliens and/or highly advanced ancient civilation.
A screw found in a 300 million year old rock
A microchip found in a 250 million year old rock
A gear tooth wheel found in a 250 million year old rock from Russia
A Hammer handle
A bell found in 300 million year old Bituminous coal
The Meister Print. A footprint on top of Trilobite fossil
Iron pot found inside a chunk of coal from Alabama coal mine
An unknown object (screw?) found in some type of rock
A hammer encased in a 400 million year old rock from Ordovician era
A 500 million year old hammer found in 400 million old rock
4 million year old gears of device found in rock from Katchatka Peninsula
Human foot found in fossilized stone about 290 million years old
Ancient carving of possible Aliens and UFO
The amazing "carved" rock found at Puma Punka estimated to be 14,000 years old
A medallion found in ancient Egyptian tomb showing alien and UFO
The Abbey mine screw encased in Feldspar found in Treasure City, Nevada
6000+ year old disk that shows stages of reproduction from sperm though to stages of fetal development
LINK
A screw found in a 300 million year old rock
A microchip found in a 250 million year old rock
A gear tooth wheel found in a 250 million year old rock from Russia
A Hammer handle
A bell found in 300 million year old Bituminous coal
The Meister Print. A footprint on top of Trilobite fossil
Iron pot found inside a chunk of coal from Alabama coal mine
An unknown object (screw?) found in some type of rock
A hammer encased in a 400 million year old rock from Ordovician era
A 500 million year old hammer found in 400 million old rock
4 million year old gears of device found in rock from Katchatka Peninsula
Human foot found in fossilized stone about 290 million years old
Ancient carving of possible Aliens and UFO
The amazing "carved" rock found at Puma Punka estimated to be 14,000 years old
A medallion found in ancient Egyptian tomb showing alien and UFO
The Abbey mine screw encased in Feldspar found in Treasure City, Nevada
6000+ year old disk that shows stages of reproduction from sperm though to stages of fetal development
LINK
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