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re: Just curious as to who believes in aliens/UFOs coverup

Posted on 7/21/17 at 10:25 am to
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 7/21/17 at 10:25 am to
person conducting these building operations is Mr. Robert Lindsay

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A quantity of the coal so removed was carted over to Mr. Lindsay’s workshop or yard for use; and while his nephew, Robert Lindsay junior, an apprentice, was breaking up a block of the coal, he was surprised to find the iron instrument now sent in the very heart of


That is a pretty weak "chain of custody" there -

So the coal was removed from its original location and "carted over" to some other place where a nephew began breaking it up into smaller (it must have been already 'broken up' in order to get it on the 'cart' and this nephew found the bolt.

I can envision a half dozen plausible scenarios where some random bolt could have found its way onto that cart.

Did anyone investigate where or not that bolt just happened to be the sort of bolt used anywhere on the excavating equipment or the transportation equipment or the 'workshop' equipment??

This one is too weak to even put in a list of other more plausible 'ancient artifacts' = most of these are interesting, this one is not worth the effort to debate.

At the very least, they should have investigated the screw ratio on the bolt. There is no rational way that a 300million year old bolt should have a thread ratio that is based on English units which were all based on bodily ratios by an English king a couple of centuries ago.
This post was edited on 7/21/17 at 10:29 am
Posted by CoachDon
Louisville
Member since Sep 2014
12409 posts
Posted on 7/21/17 at 10:32 am to
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It is very clear to me that our dating techniques are very very flawed somehow.


You can't be "very clear" and then end with "somehow"

You also speak in a definitive style while not being an expert in the field.

I do believe in extra-terrestrial life because it is inane to think that we are the only biological mistake in the infinity of the universe. Just because you can't wrap your little boxed in brain around a concept, doesn't make it invalid. The "show me" people jump on this statement first. We can agree there are many things that are accepted that aren't seen.

Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 7/21/17 at 10:37 am to
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person conducting these building operations is Mr. Robert Lindsay


I know that.

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That is a pretty weak "chain of custody" there -


For Robert Lindsey Junior to pull off a hoax alone it still would be necessary for him to have a screw already coated in coal that was cleaned off in front of the other people who claimed they saw the screw coated in coal.

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So the coal was removed from its original location and "carted over" to some other place where a nephew began breaking it up into smaller (it must have been already 'broken up' in order to get it on the 'cart' and this nephew found the bolt.

I can envision a half dozen plausible scenarios where some random bolt could have found its way onto that cart.

Did anyone investigate where or not that bolt just happened to be the sort of bolt used anywhere on the excavating equipment or the transportation equipment or the 'workshop' equipment??


Those are questions which may or may not have been asked and answered but we will never know because no one did a further scientific investigation into the discovery at the time to determine the facts surrounding the discovery.

Instead they buried the screw in the Book of the Damned.

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This one is too weak to even put in a list of other more plausible 'ancient artifacts' = most of these are interesting, this one is not worth the effort to debate.


There are plenty of other out of place objects but the scientific community has also buried them in the Book of the Damned because they don't confirm to the accepted scientific beliefs
This post was edited on 7/21/17 at 10:39 am
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 7/21/17 at 3:18 pm to
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It's been shown that ramps / sledges could have easily handled transportation.


I posted a detailed explanation why external ramps could not have been used to build the Great Pyramid and that the internal ramp method is just a theory and would be very difficult to build and you have not responded with any counterpoint disagreeing with the detailed explanation I posted.

I interpret your lack of response to mean you agree with me that ramps have not been proven to be the method used to build the Great Pyramid.

Is my interpretation for your lack of response correct?
This post was edited on 7/21/17 at 3:20 pm
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 7/21/17 at 6:34 pm to
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 7/21/17 at 7:01 pm to
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I struggled thru the writeup associated with the "screw embedded in 300 million year old stone."

The translation from the original Russian(?) is almost unreadable. So much that I won't try to offer commentary on their statements.

BUT - I did not see where they determined what the screw was made of. Was it metal?


When you place the pointer over the photo of the screw in a 300 million year old rock it changes to a magnifying glass symbol and a short description appears on the screen.

It says, "in the summer of 1998, Russian scientists who were investigating the remains of a meteorite 300 km southwest of Moscow discovered a piece of rock which enclosed an iron screw..." If you click into where it says "see more" a small window appears which gives some possibilities of what it could be. The leading skeptical hypothesis is that the "iron screw" is just the fossilized remains of an ancient sea creature called a crinoid. Another skeptic's hypothesis is that it is just a fossilized echinoderm.

I didn't click into the photo so I don't know if that is what you read but it definitely said it was an iron screw.
This post was edited on 7/21/17 at 7:09 pm
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 7/21/17 at 8:19 pm to
Here's a few more photos of weird stuff.

A spark plug encased in a rock that was found in Delaware


A strange metal object of unknown origin found inside a geode


Ancient Ecuador and Mesopotamia carvings of similar creature


The Antikythera mechanism discovered in 1900 by Greek divers at the bottom of the Aegean Sea near the island of Antikythea in an ancient Greek ship. Said to be an ancient computer.


The Lolladoff plate is a 12,000 year old plate found in Nepal. It shows an image of an alien and a UFO


3500 year old Egyptian hieroglyph on a cave wall


Easter Island statue evacuation in 2012 showing that the Easter Island statues have a body


Another Easter Island statue showing it also has a body and pertroglyphs


Pyramids found in 2001 off the coast of Cuba about a mile underwater


Another photo of a screw in 300 million year old rock found by Russians. I'm not sure but it could be another photo of the same "iron screw" I previously posted a photo of


Ancient rock has same design as modern crop circle



Ancient carvings of beings in similar poses wearing similar objects. All are holding what people say is a pine cone but my theory is it is some sort of weapon or object to translate language(?)


A supposedly suppressed NASA photo of the moon and a similar ancient structure in Peru


An ancient 9 inch metal screw found in the 2600 year old mummy of an Egyptian priest UserMontu's leg


Incredible dental work found on a 4000 year old Egyptian mummy. The two center teeth are donor teeth


This post was edited on 7/21/17 at 8:50 pm
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 7/21/17 at 9:21 pm to
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This one is too weak to even put in a list of other more plausible 'ancient artifacts' = most of these are interesting, this one is not worth the effort to debate.


Okay, but what about what's in the other photos that I posted?

Let's start with this one.


How did ancient Peruvians make those two stone blocks with 24 angles stones so that a piece of paper won't slide into the joints between the two stones?

Why did they make two stone blocks with 24 angles to fill the vacant area that needed to be filled when all they had to do was make one eight-sided stone block to fit into the vacant area that needed to be filled?

However, even if they had made only one eight-sided stone block to fit into the vacant area, it would still be an amazing accomplishment for ancient people to be able to do.
This post was edited on 7/21/17 at 9:24 pm
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 7/23/17 at 8:34 am to
It's typical that when credible evidence is presented proving ancient people had technological knowledge they shouldn't have and in some cases we don't even have today then the skeptics and debunkers refuse to talk about it.

Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 7/23/17 at 8:44 am to
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I posted a detailed explanation why external ramps could not have been used to build the Great Pyramid


They could have, and were.

Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
76497 posts
Posted on 7/23/17 at 8:48 am to




Hahahahahahahaahaha








Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 7/23/17 at 9:50 am to
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 7/23/17 at 9:59 am to
quote:

I posted a detailed explanation why external ramps could not have been used to build the Great Pyramid


quote:

They could have, and were.


I noticed that you didn't provide any proof of your assertion.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
76497 posts
Posted on 7/23/17 at 11:45 am to
I've always said how pompous, arrogant and dangerous our attempts to communicate with..."whomever" is out there is.

If we did succeed chances would be good that we wouldn't like the results
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
39349 posts
Posted on 7/23/17 at 1:39 pm to
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Astronomers now admitting that our galaxy has 100 billion of earth-like habitable planets.
And to think; God sent his only begotten son to save this little sand pebble on the beach.

I feel so advantaged.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
62079 posts
Posted on 7/23/17 at 1:48 pm to
Did anyone hear Coast to Coast A.M. friday night? The first few hours of the show the host was interviewing this guy who claims to have been abducted multiple times over the years since the age of seven. He even said that he was assigned an alien friend to play with as a boy. Strange stuff.
This post was edited on 7/23/17 at 1:50 pm
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 7/24/17 at 9:31 am to
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I noticed that you didn't provide any proof of your assertion.


Physics and gravity are proof enough. Aside from the mountains of published research on just this method and how the Egyptians used it.
Posted by PuddinPopPharmacist
Member since May 2017
790 posts
Posted on 7/24/17 at 10:01 am to
Posting obvious hoaxes like the lolladoff plate and crop circles. You are a very gullible person.

By the way, here is the real photo of your supposed grey alien hieroglyph:
This post was edited on 7/24/17 at 10:17 am
Posted by ChoupiqueSacalait
9th Ward
Member since May 2007
4288 posts
Posted on 7/24/17 at 10:15 am to
The shadows on the alien hieroglyph's eyes should be at the top of the eyes not the bottom
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 7/24/17 at 10:42 am to
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Posting obvious hoaxes like the lolladoff plate and crop circles. You are a very gullible person.

By the way, here is the real photo of your supposed grey alien hieroglyph:


I never claimed that everything in every photo was legit.

I assume some are frauds so when we weed the frauds out then we can examine what's left.

Let's talk about this.



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