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Just a question: Why are we allowing out of state money to influence State elections?
Posted on 10/30/20 at 4:30 pm
Posted on 10/30/20 at 4:30 pm
Maybe this is a low IQ question but why can’t there be a law passed that states only money from citizens of the state can donate to state political campaigns.
Yes, I know money will be funneled into and around but this seems like simple fix.
Yes, I know money will be funneled into and around but this seems like simple fix.
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Posted on 10/30/20 at 4:32 pm to DiamondDog
Given the vote buying and selling across state lines maybe it falls under commerce clause in addition to federal election law. If only we had a congress to do something about it.
Posted on 10/30/20 at 4:34 pm to DiamondDog
Citizens United. A 5-4 SCOTUS decision in 2013 saying that political spending is the same as speech.
Maine used to have a law prohibiting out-of-state money in politics, but that was invalidated after Citizens United.
Maine used to have a law prohibiting out-of-state money in politics, but that was invalidated after Citizens United.
Posted on 10/30/20 at 4:34 pm to McLemore
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Given the vote buying and selling across state lines maybe it falls under commerce clause in addition to federal election law. If only we had a congress to do something about it.
I think this seems like an easy bipartisan fix. I mean, each side has their perceived “evil” donors trying to influence elections. I would think this would be a good thing to limit outside influence but because of that- likely won’t see any traction.
Posted on 10/30/20 at 4:36 pm to cardigandawg
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Citizens United.
Good name bad policy. Had to be liberal idea.
Posted on 10/30/20 at 4:41 pm to DiamondDog
Most of that money is PAC money. Citizens United is a double edged sword.
The problem most of us conservatives have is that we think Democrats and Progressives hate capitalism. They don't. It is all in how it is used.
Conservatives see it as a tool, just the way things are done, people get rich, people get poor.
Progressives have learned that capitalism can be used as a weapon.....that is what they do in funneling out of state money to guys like Beto or Ossoff in GA . The return is the power. Republicand do it too but it tends to be business buying a politician in order to enrich themselves.
The problem most of us conservatives have is that we think Democrats and Progressives hate capitalism. They don't. It is all in how it is used.
Conservatives see it as a tool, just the way things are done, people get rich, people get poor.
Progressives have learned that capitalism can be used as a weapon.....that is what they do in funneling out of state money to guys like Beto or Ossoff in GA . The return is the power. Republicand do it too but it tends to be business buying a politician in order to enrich themselves.
Posted on 10/30/20 at 4:56 pm to DiamondDog
Are you talking Governor, or are you talking federal seats like Senate and House?
Federal seats affect everyone, but I could agree on state only positions.
Federal seats affect everyone, but I could agree on state only positions.
Posted on 10/30/20 at 5:00 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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Federal seats affect everyone,
They are representatives of that state. Allowing them to be influenced by forces outside the state seems to defeat the point of being representative of the state. But what do I know.
Posted on 10/30/20 at 5:44 pm to cardigandawg
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Citizens United. A 5-4 SCOTUS decision in 2013 saying that political spending is the same as speech.
The 5: Kennedy, Roberts, Alito, Thomas, Scalia. The explosion of PACs and national money are due to this decision. Mitch McConnell was the original plaintiff. This was a party line decision.
The pendulum has swung to where individual Dems are dumping money on campaigns they never would in the past. Now Rs are worried about out of state money when it’s cost them House seats in 2018 and huge inflows are coming into 2020 Senate races.
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