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re: Judges are trying to become president.

Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:30 am to
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
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Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:30 am to
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More scapegoating from Trump. No one wants him going unchecked, not even the people that think they do.



nobody said they wanted him to go unchecked dumbass

this isnt checking though. the president absolutely has the powers to do what he has been doing under the executive branch and the powers appointed to them

he campaigned on deporting criminals and anyone here illegally. this is exactly what we voted for dumbass
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:30 am to
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Trump just cut through the GOVERNMENT red tape that everybody complains about and did what was inevitably going to happen anyway.


Trump cut through government red tape by using laws already on the books.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:30 am to
That's pretty much the guy at Columbia.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467780 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:31 am to
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But time-wise the power they wield is extremely asymmetric.

If you're talking about injunctions, that is due to Congressional authorization, and can be scaled back by Congress. The reason this is not likely to happen is everyone wants this avenue when they're not in power (as we saw during the Biden admin).

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It's like saying the guy wrongly jailed for a year turns out fine because he won his appeal. They can do political damage regardless of whether they're eventually overturned.

Congress/POTUS, not the courts, are the bodies who makes the judgment call here weighing the costs/benefits

Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26950 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:31 am to
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I don't love unchecked executive power.


I don't either, but I also don't love unchecked judicial power.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:31 am to
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Trump cut through government red tape by using laws already on the books


But SFPs just defending the constituion for criminals like Boasberg
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46403 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:31 am to
interesting take. so you would have zero issues with Trump and his majority congress impeaching all dem appointed DC judges and replacing them with lackeys who will simply "undo" anything the Republican party doesnt like from future democrat presidents?

Answer honestly.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26950 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:32 am to
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If you're talking about injunctions, that is due to Congressional authorization,


That doesn't make my statement any less true.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467780 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:32 am to
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What is wrong with a hearing or whatever on whether Trump followed this law?


That is what the histrionics ignore.

Nobody is sympathizing or defending TDA. They're just saying TDA should get a hearing prior to being deported to Venezuela.

Why is that such an emotionally-charged option for the MAGA contingent?
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
94242 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:33 am to
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They're just saying TDA should get a hearing prior to being deported to Venezuela.


Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:33 am to
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But SFPs just defending the constituion for criminals like Boasberg

Yes, when that "tape cutting" is skipping over rights. Then it's a Constitutional issue.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:33 am to
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nobody said they wanted him to go unchecked dumbass

this isnt checking though. the president absolutely has the powers to do what he has been doing under the executive branch and the powers appointed to them


The game is to slow Trump down. They know he is acting legally. But if they can get him tied up in judicial review that means the less deportations Trump can make before the midterms. Dems need these illegals here to vote in precincts where they don't check ID.

It's a game.
This post was edited on 3/19/25 at 8:40 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467780 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:35 am to
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They know he is acting legally. But if they can get him tied up in judicial review that means the less deportations

This process to deport these TDA guys would have only been slightly delayed had he just done it traditionally.

His legal argument is also flimsy and may result in the deportations being reversed, which is not a good option, either.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
94242 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:35 am to
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Then it's a Constitutional issue


Sorry illegal criminal gang members dont fall under that despite what you lefties say
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467780 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:36 am to
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Sorry illegal criminal gang members dont fall under that despite what you lefties say

Now you're just making shite up and lying

But it's a good segue to ask this again (Since nobody answered)

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I'll ask it here, though. If we have no judicial oversight/recourse, what happens when a citizen is labeled a "terrorist" and then put on a plane in the middle of the night and shipped off to a Central American jail? Do they just have to grin and bear it?


This example is why protecting the rights of pieces of shite is important, and why most cases involving Constitutional rights in this realm involve unsavory, sometimes evil, people.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:37 am to
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Then it's a Constitutional issue
Sorry illegal criminal gang members dont fall under that despite what you lefties say
I sometimes wonder when the Reactionary Right decided that Textualism constitutes "Leftism."

It is a strange reversal.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26950 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:37 am to
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But if they can get him tied up in judicial review


I don't think I've ever seen a lawyer admit that this happens by design.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467780 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:38 am to
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I sometimes wonder when the Reactionary Right decided that Textualism constitutes "Leftism."

It is a strange reversal.


He's just being inflammatory under the guise of being irrational.

He's one of the few who admits he has few, if any beliefs aligned with conservatism like limited government or decreased spending. He's one of the honest ones, in other words.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
36844 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:38 am to
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The game is to slow Trump down. They know he is acting legally. But if they can get him tied up in judicial review that means the less deportations Trump can make before the midterms. Dems need these illegals here to vote in precincts were they don't check ID.

It's a game.


100% i just cant stand dudes like that when they try and misrepresent what the trump voters like
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
94242 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:38 am to
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Now you're just making shite up and lying


Lol this is like when you tried to argue that illegal criminals have the right to bear arms
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