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Judge to Stone: don’t argue your case on the “talk show circuit”
Posted on 2/1/19 at 3:15 pm
Posted on 2/1/19 at 3:15 pm
How does a judge have the right to impose an infringement of Roger Stone’s 1st Amendment right to speech? It’s not like he is the one that brought the action against himself.
It’s the govt’s job to prove his guilt beyond a reasonable doubt - not Stone’s job to sit there like a dog and take it.
If part of his defense strategy is to speak out publically against the charges- probably agains the advice of his own counsel- that’s his perogative.
Judge should have no say in what he says or does concerning his own defense outside of her blessed sanctuary.
It’s the govt’s job to prove his guilt beyond a reasonable doubt - not Stone’s job to sit there like a dog and take it.
If part of his defense strategy is to speak out publically against the charges- probably agains the advice of his own counsel- that’s his perogative.
Judge should have no say in what he says or does concerning his own defense outside of her blessed sanctuary.
quote:CNN
The federal judge overseeing the Roger Stone case is considering a gag order, she said at a hearing in Washington on Friday. "This is a criminal proceeding and not a public relations campaign," Judge Amy Berman Jackson said in a brief hearing. Jackson cautioned Stone, a longtime Republican campaign adviser and confidant of President Donald Trump, against treating the buildup to the trial "like a book tour" and reminded him he should not argue his case "on the talk show circuit." She also said that if a gag order is imposed, that wouldn't limit all of Stone's public speaking. He and others in the case, Jackson said, could still "discuss foreign relations, immigration or Tom Brady."
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Posted on 2/1/19 at 3:15 pm to Covingtontiger77
Is that an enforceable order?
Posted on 2/1/19 at 3:15 pm to Covingtontiger77
Woohoo!
More banana republic BS
More banana republic BS
Posted on 2/1/19 at 3:16 pm to Covingtontiger77
Shes so mad Stone Cold is winning against her in the public eye
Posted on 2/1/19 at 3:17 pm to Covingtontiger77
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Judge should have no say in what he says or does concerning his own defense outside of her blessed sanctuary.
Federal judges are masters at quoting platitudes about the system, while finding justification at every corner to erode the very freedoms that said system guarantees.
Posted on 2/1/19 at 3:22 pm to dcbl
Yes.... she can actually have him put in solitary confinement like she still has Manafort in
Posted on 2/1/19 at 3:24 pm to Covingtontiger77
quote:
How does a judge have the right to impose an infringement of Roger Stone’s 1st Amendment right to speech? It’s not like he is the one that brought the action against himself. It’s the govt’s job to prove his guilt beyond a reasonable doubt - not Stone’s job to sit there like a dog and take it. If part of his defense strategy is to speak out publically against the charges- probably agains the advice of his own counsel- that’s his perogative. Judge should have no say in what he says or does concerning his own defense outside of her blessed sanctuary.
It's for all of these reasons that Stone has a very good chance of beating the order on appeal.
Posted on 2/1/19 at 3:24 pm to Covingtontiger77
quote:Judges have been issuing "gag orders" to prevent pollution of the jury pool for centuries. They have been challenged repeatedly. They almost always withstand scrutiny. Such is life.
Judge to Stone: don’t argue your case on the “talk show circuit.” How does a judge have the right to impose an infringement of Roger Stone’s 1st Amendment right to speech?
This post was edited on 2/1/19 at 3:28 pm
Posted on 2/1/19 at 3:25 pm to Covingtontiger77
If a defendant is presumed innocent then there's no reason for a gag order to be placed on a defendant to keep them from discussing it publicly.
Posted on 2/1/19 at 3:49 pm to AggieHank86
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Judges have been issuing "gag orders" to prevent pollution of the jury pool for centuries. They have been challenged repeatedly. They almost always withstand scrutiny. Such is life.
Yeah gag orders against the prosecution in a criminal case and a plaintiff in a high profile civil case.
Defendants do not speak on advice of counsel. Roger DGAF
LET HIM SPEAK
Posted on 2/1/19 at 3:51 pm to Covingtontiger77
Piss on her. The government brought the charges.
Posted on 2/1/19 at 3:56 pm to Covingtontiger77
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Defendants do not speak on advice of counsel. Roger DGAF
LET HIM SPEAK
His other option if he really wants to be able to continue to go on InfoWars and bleed about being lynched would be to forego a jury trial since prejudicing the jury pool wouldn't be an issue anymore.
This post was edited on 2/1/19 at 4:00 pm
Posted on 2/1/19 at 4:09 pm to TigerDoc
No his other option is to ignore the judge and do what he wants.
Posted on 2/1/19 at 4:20 pm to bencoleman
Sure, and knowing Stone he'd be pretty likely to violate a gag order.
Posted on 2/1/19 at 4:31 pm to Covingtontiger77
Hey Amy. Frick you! This is America. Kiss my arse.
-R Stone
-R Stone
Posted on 2/1/19 at 4:31 pm to Covingtontiger77
frick that judge
Posted on 2/2/19 at 8:34 am to TigerDoc
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Sure, and knowing Stone he'd be pretty likely to violate a gag order
I would. I'd tell the judge that I didn't invite 30 heavily armed swat officers to my house to charge me to try to get at the President and the FBI must have a short memory because I've been a paid informant for years.
frick them.
Posted on 2/2/19 at 8:37 am to Covingtontiger77
The judge can issue a gag order if needed to protect the potential jury pool if necessary. But beyond that Stone is putting himself out there for a potential trap in his own words if he speaks too much.
Posted on 2/2/19 at 8:49 am to AggieHank86
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Judges have been issuing "gag orders" to prevent pollution of the jury pool for centuries. They have been challenged repeatedly. They almost always withstand scrutiny. Such is life
Then she better issue one to the media as well.
Stone speaking isn't to counter the prosecution (at least, not directly), it's to counter the fricking media that many of may not, be serving as a conduit for the prosecutors. The media has been (and will be) infecting the jury pool all along.
And if they bitch about it remember that freedom of speech and of the press are in the same fricking amendment.
Posted on 2/2/19 at 9:26 am to Covingtontiger77
So, the fake news MSM can argue and BIAS Jurists all they want, but Stone can not present arguments against? Bob Meuller can leak (He did, BuzzFeed, and had to roll back, or be investigated) but His Targets can't?
This should be challenged. A GoFundMe would be a good shot across that Judge's bow. And all who use Justice Institutions as Political weapons/mechanisms.
This should be challenged. A GoFundMe would be a good shot across that Judge's bow. And all who use Justice Institutions as Political weapons/mechanisms.
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