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re: Judge stops just-passed law doing away with the Orleans Criminal Clerk of Court position

Posted on 5/4/26 at 8:29 pm to
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49420 posts
Posted on 5/4/26 at 8:29 pm to
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And Orleans Parish elections for local officials are local matters, not state matters you miserable troll.


Your understanding of basic civics is abhorrent.
Posted by Red Stick Rambler
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Posted on 5/4/26 at 10:07 pm to
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Orleans Parish elections for local officials are local matters, not state matters,


The “local office” that was the subject of that “local election” was created (and done away with) by State law enacted by the State legislature, not by local ordinance adopted by the New Orleans City Council.

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I would bet everything I own that you weigh at least 100 lbs more than me despite being at least 3 inches shorter than me, too.


That’s weird….
This post was edited on 5/4/26 at 10:12 pm
Posted by Neutral Underground
Member since Mar 2024
3409 posts
Posted on 5/4/26 at 10:33 pm to
Louisiana has a supreme court.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61469 posts
Posted on 5/4/26 at 10:44 pm to
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The “local office” that was the subject of that “local election” was created (and done away with) by State law enacted by the State legislature, not by local ordinance adopted by the New Orleans City Council.


Do you think that gives the governor and his short bus squad carte blanche to thwart the will of the people for no good reason?
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That’s weird….

Not as weird as random men I’d never be in the same room with if I could help it speculating about my weight or hair color. Unsurprisingly, I’m held to a higher standard than this brainless, unhinged man who posts here.
Posted by LSUbest
Coastal Plain
Member since Aug 2007
16501 posts
Posted on 5/4/26 at 10:56 pm to
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Do you think that gives the governor and his short bus squad carte blanche to thwart the will of the people for no good reason?


Good reason: Every other parish has consolidated the civil and criminal clerks for efficiency.
Why should Orleans parish be less efficient and receive special treatment versus the other 63 parishes?
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61469 posts
Posted on 5/4/26 at 11:07 pm to
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Good reason: Every other parish has consolidated the civil and criminal clerks for efficiency. Why should Orleans parish be less efficient and receive special treatment versus the other 63 parishes?


The law merges just the clerk’s offices of the two courts, but leaves the two courts entirely separate. Orleans Parish would still have the two separate courts, doing different things, in buildings across town from each other. The “merged” clerk would still serve two sets of judges, operate two different filing systems, supervise staff at two separate sites, work with two distinct sets of institutional actors, and apply two distinct bodies of law, from the federal constitution down to the state public records regulations.


Can you outline how eliminating this position makes anything more efficient for the people of New Orleans or Louisiana?

LINK
This post was edited on 5/4/26 at 11:10 pm
Posted by Red Stick Rambler
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Posted on 5/5/26 at 8:03 am to
Cubbies, I haven’t seen you this animated in some time.

Do you really think the legislature acted illegally, or do you just disagree with what they did? Given everything in the news right now, what is it about this story that has you so passionate?
Posted by JCdawg
Member since Sep 2014
9551 posts
Posted on 5/5/26 at 8:20 am to
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To be fair, we don’t know for a fact that she’s fat.


Deductive reasoning and logic.
Posted by JCdawg
Member since Sep 2014
9551 posts
Posted on 5/5/26 at 8:29 am to
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The law merges just the clerk’s offices of the two courts, but leaves the two courts entirely separate.


Your 3rd world parish is losing population hand over fist, thus tax base is leaving. You have to make cuts.
Posted by Red Stick Rambler
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Posted on 5/5/26 at 11:33 am to
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Cubbies, I haven’t seen you this animated in some time. Do you really think the legislature acted illegally, or do you just disagree with what they did? Given everything in the news right now, what is it about this story that has you so passionate?


Bumping because I'm really curious why, with everything else in the news, this particular story has Cubbies so fired up.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61469 posts
Posted on 5/5/26 at 11:35 am to
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Your 3rd world parish is losing population hand over fist, thus tax base is leaving. You have to make cuts.



how much money is the merger saving?
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
27205 posts
Posted on 5/5/26 at 11:40 am to
Paper and pen. We are supposed to be a country of laws. Lawmakers make laws and judged uphold those laws. We have entered into a time were judges think they are lawmakers and judges think they are president.

Luckily we had brilliant people that foresaw this and we have laws and rules to counter judges overstepping their authority.

Unluckily we don't have people in power willing to exercise those laws and rules.
Posted by Onyx Aggie
Foothills of the Smokies
Member since Sep 2012
2969 posts
Posted on 5/5/26 at 11:44 am to
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The federal court ruled that our state constitution
Today I learned that 4Chubbies is actually from Louisiana and not some DU reject interloper from the Northeast.

Are you possibly a carpetbagger?
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61469 posts
Posted on 5/5/26 at 12:03 pm to
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Do you really think the legislature acted illegally, or do you just disagree with what they did? Given everything in the news right now, what is it about this story that has you so passionate?



Both can be true, but what really bothers me is how targeted this all feels and looks.

It's just so mean-spirited. The legislature acted spitefully and thoughtlessly. Orleans Parish has had separate clerks since 1879, rooted in the state constitution. That structure wasn’t suddenly a problem until voters overwhelmingly elected an exonerated Black man to be Criminal Clerk of Court. After 150 years, now it needs to be “fixed.”

I don't understand the unchecked acceptance of the "this is about efficiency" claim. Orleans Parish still has two separate courts, two locations, two staffs, and two distinct legal functions. No one can explain how merging the clerks meaningfully improves operations for the public or saves money.

And if he's eliminating an elected position, why not let voters choose the replacement instead of appointing one?

At the same time, he's launched aggressive criminal action against Susan Hutson framed as "accountability." But where was that urgency for Marlin Gusman? During Hurricane Katrina, inmates were left to drown in the jail. There were escapes, chronic understaffing, and years of documented problems. None of that triggered this kind of prosecutorial zeal.

The optics speak for themselves.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61469 posts
Posted on 5/5/26 at 12:07 pm to
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Today I learned that 4Chubbies is actually from Louisiana and not some DU reject interloper from the Northeast.



I grew up outside of New Orleans. I spent significant time in Seattle growing up due to my parents' custody agreement.
Posted by Great Plains Drifter
Flyover, U.S.A.
Member since Jul 2019
9932 posts
Posted on 5/5/26 at 12:09 pm to
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We have a judge problem in this country


Possibly the simplest but most bulls-eye accurate statement that has ever been offered on this board.
Posted by JCdawg
Member since Sep 2014
9551 posts
Posted on 5/5/26 at 12:09 pm to
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how much money is the merger saving?


The opinion article you posted doesn’t contain those numbers for obvious reasons.

However, the central chart does show the number of positions being eliminated.

- 4th circuit court of appeals - 2 judges
- Orleans Parish - 5 judges
- clerke of court - 1
- Bill also combines 3 separate court systems into one. Doesn’t specify how many might be cut, nor physical property eliminated.

The author speaks of tourism, which adds revenue, but that revenue has always been part of the equation. New Orleans was once close to 500k residence, it is now under 300k. That is a massive loss in tax revenue, and most of that is probably affluent. The affluent float the system while the remaining 300k are probably the users of the system.

So to answer your question, my best guess is this move is saving the parish $600,000 to $800,000 in salary alone. Real estate could factor in more, along with administrative cuts.


Posted by Red Stick Rambler
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2656 posts
Posted on 5/5/26 at 12:14 pm to
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what really bothers me is how targeted this all feels and looks. It's just so mean-spirited. The legislature acted spitefully and thoughtlessly.

And that warrants a federal judge's intervention?

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And if he's eliminating an elected position, why not let voters choose the replacement instead of appointing one?


Didn't the bill roll the criminal clerk's duties into the existing civil clerk? And wasn't that civil clerk elected by the voters of Orleans Parish?

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At the same time, he's launched aggressive criminal action against Susan Hutson framed as "accountability."

Huston was indicted for malfeasance and payroll fraud - that doesn't concern you?

EDIT: The charges against Hutson include 14 counts of malfeasance in office, along with multiple counts of conspiracy, filing false public records, and obstruction of justice, with prosecutors alleging she tampered with evidence with the “specific intent of distorting the results” of a criminal investigation or proceeding.

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But where was that urgency for Marlin Gusman? During Hurricane Katrina, inmates were left to drown in the jail. There were escapes, chronic understaffing, and years of documented problems.

Jeff Landry wasn't Governor then, Kathleen Blanco was.

This post was edited on 5/5/26 at 12:29 pm
Posted by Bourre
Da Parish
Member since Nov 2012
23921 posts
Posted on 5/5/26 at 12:19 pm to
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I spent significant time in Seattle growing up due to my parents' custody agreement.


There it is folks, daddy issues

No one’s surprised that you have daddy issues, most retarded female leftist have daddy issues

This post was edited on 5/5/26 at 12:24 pm
Posted by Onyx Aggie
Foothills of the Smokies
Member since Sep 2012
2969 posts
Posted on 5/5/26 at 12:26 pm to
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I spent significant time in Seattle growing up
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