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re: Judge Rejects Lawsuit Against Lafayette Hospital Vaccine Mandate

Posted on 9/23/21 at 6:30 pm to
Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
19301 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 6:30 pm to
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What is to prevent a company from telling all pregnant women that they must get an abortion to keep their job? What about HIPAA?

Then they can feel free to keep their baby and go work somewhere else! Am I doing this right libs? Or is it (D)ifferent?
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
85685 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 6:32 pm to
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It’s going to be fun when Oschner and Lourdes have to shut down wards, because they don’t have personnel.


Which is the other side of at-will employment. Your employees quit and you have no recourse against them like you would stipulated damages in a contract situation.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70811 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 6:34 pm to
“I can mandate all my employees wear purple thongs every day or they’re fired.”



No you can’t
Posted by NineLineBind
LA....no, the other one
Member since May 2020
8637 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 6:44 pm to
How come we must follow employment laws but not immigration laws? Why are we sticklers sometimes but not always, or never?

My problem is with inconsistencies of our executives.
This post was edited on 9/23/21 at 6:46 pm
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
85685 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 6:47 pm to
Sure I can. May open me up to a sexual harassment claim when I try to inspect them, but there is nothing prohibiting me setting that as a condition of employment.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
85685 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 6:47 pm to
quote:

How come we must follow employment laws but not immigration laws? Why are we sticklers sometimes but not always, or never?

My problem is with inconsistencies of our executives.


Well the hospitals are not the government so you’re comparing apples to oranges.
Posted by NineLineBind
LA....no, the other one
Member since May 2020
8637 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 6:53 pm to
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Well the hospitals are not the government so you’re comparing apples to oranges.

Your response gave hospitals and other private companies backing by citing the at-will statute.



Are judges following the law or aren’t they?
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70811 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 6:53 pm to
“Sure I can. May open me up to a sexual harassment claim when I try to inspect them, but there is nothing prohibiting me setting that as a condition of employment.”


You can do whatever you want in any capacity you choose but your comment is a dishonest deflection pretending there is no recourse or consequence to anything.
Posted by dukkbill
Member since Aug 2012
1050 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 6:55 pm to
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What is to prevent a company from telling all pregnant women that they must get an abortion to keep their job?



That would create direct issues under both the Family Medical Leave Act (FMLA) and the Pregnancy Discrimination Act (PDA).

Indeed, if you want to ensure that an employer cannot require certain vaccines, the best way would be to lobby your legislature to create that specific right through a statute.

quote:

What about HIPAA?


An employer will not usually be a covered entity under HIPAA. Your medical provider is the covered entity. In light of current concerns, this may be another area where it would be a good idea to lobby for legislation.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
85685 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 6:55 pm to
It’s an accurate comment reflecting the state of affairs of at-will employment in Louisiana.

Why has no one complained of the mandates from the big oil operators out in the Gulf? They’re requiring vaccines to get on the rig.
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
131605 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 6:56 pm to
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Why has no one complained of the mandates from the big oil operators out in the Gulf? They’re requiring vaccines to get on the rig.



Tiktok nurses are more vocal on facebook than oilfield baws
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128846 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 7:00 pm to
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An employer will not usually be a covered entity under HIPAA.


Furthermore, vaccination status has been held to not be a piece of HIPAA covered information.

And even if it was, the government would change the rules so that it wasn’t for Covid vaccines.

There is no salvation from government through government. Salvation from government overreach comes outside the system of government.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
85685 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 7:06 pm to
Or the Louisiana legislature can come together and say it is the public policy of this state that private employers may not require vaccines of their employees.
This post was edited on 9/23/21 at 7:09 pm
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128846 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 7:11 pm to
Lol. I’m not from Louisiana. But I see this as slightly less likely than lightning striking Cassidy twice.

A pussy government isn’t growing a spine at this point.
Posted by michael corleone
baton rouge
Member since Jun 2005
6554 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 7:12 pm to
Not surprised. They probably put up 500$ each. Lawyers took it knowing that there were no legit legal grounds. I don’t agree with the mandate , just disagree with attorneys accepting money for cases they know have little or no chance of being successful.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128846 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 7:25 pm to
Cases like these can be useful in galvanizing segments of the population. You have to exhaust the avenues of recourse available in the system. Then you start blowing the system up.

Nurses weren’t able to sue their employer for not providing them with adequate PPE at the front end of the pandemic.

And now they have no recourse when the hospital pretends it cares about its employees health and safety on the job.
Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
Member since Aug 2009
140864 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 7:33 pm to

quote:

what’s the difference?


Sex is biology
Gender is cultural
This post was edited on 9/23/21 at 7:34 pm
Posted by Category5
Member since Mar 2019
295 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 7:34 pm to
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I can mandate all my employees wear purple thongs every day or they’re fired


Are you protected for not hiring or firing an overweight person?

Are you going to pay for the medical treatment for UTI's, vaginal infections, and chafing?

What accommodations will be made for the Southern Baptist ladies?
Posted by Clockwatcher68
Youngsville
Member since May 2006
8068 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 8:10 pm to
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The hospitals are private employers and are free to mandate conditions of employment in an at-will state.



Can they mandate you be Asian, heterosexual, Democrat, right-handed, have less than 15% body fat, or have a full head of hair? Their “freedom” is limited, and the line is always moving.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
85685 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 8:11 pm to
You can simply identify as those things and you should be good to go. It’s a whole new world outchea
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