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re: Judge Raquel West: the days of going easy on teens and giving them probation are OVER

Posted on 3/19/26 at 9:55 am to
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15858 posts
Posted on 3/19/26 at 9:55 am to
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but are you really so stupid as to not 


Are you really so stupid to think I care. I want them locked up away from society.


Punishment has been shown to be effective. Look at countries that remove body parts for stealing and then explain why their theft rate is so low.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
13565 posts
Posted on 3/19/26 at 9:59 am to
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If the punishment is severe enough it helps stop crime has been proven in multiple countries.


I don't believe you.

Let's see a link.

Here are some of mine. Let me know if you need more.

LINK

LINK

This one specifically looked at cross-national circumstances and concluded that moderation in penalties was actually more effective at deterring crime than harsh punishments. LINK

There's lots more if you want them.

I'll wait for your links demonstrating the opposite point of view.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
13565 posts
Posted on 3/19/26 at 10:03 am to
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Look at countries that remove body parts for stealing and then explain why their theft rate is so low.


I already did.

Enforcement is very rigorous in those same countries (Singapore, Saudi Arabia), which means the likelihood of being caught is high.

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Are you really so stupid to think I care.


You make a good point there (the first one you've made, in fact). It IS stupid for me to continue to argue with an obvious cretin with nothing to back up his baseless assertions that have been disproven many times.

Get down in the mud with a pig, you just get dirty and the pig likes it, right?

O.k. pig, you've convinced me of what a waste of time it is for me to continue this conversation.

Oink it up without me.
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15858 posts
Posted on 3/19/26 at 10:06 am to
Do you know why gangs use kids to steal and run drugs? Because they know they won't be punished and be back out fast. Make the punishment severe enough and the gangs would stop using kids. Why can't you understand something so simple...
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15858 posts
Posted on 3/19/26 at 10:10 am to
LINK

Link is to The Digest


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the law requiring longer sentences has been effective in lowering crime. Within three years, crimes covered by the law fell an estimated 8 percent. Seven years after the law changed, these crimes were down 20 percent.


Longer sentences can be a deterant and crime is also reduced with criminals being off the streets. They go hand in hand.
Yes, you're correct that some studies show that punishment doesn't stop crime yet other studies show they do. Punishment should also be used to protect society.

Do you believe that crime should have severe consequences or what is your beliefs?
This post was edited on 3/19/26 at 10:15 am
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
59293 posts
Posted on 3/19/26 at 10:11 am to
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Honestly, 25 years is a bit harsh, but at least he'll be behind bars for a spell.


Not for this case and the seemingly growing casual disregard he has for the lives of others.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
35553 posts
Posted on 3/19/26 at 10:12 am to
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He’ll probably be out in 5 - 10 yrs if he behaves himself.


That dude will likely never get out of prison. He will either get killed, or kill someone and get additional time.
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
48427 posts
Posted on 3/19/26 at 10:13 am to
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Does the family of black folk think they shouldn’t be punished?


Yes. That's exactly what 95% of them think.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
35553 posts
Posted on 3/19/26 at 10:15 am to
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If the punishment isn't severe then there isn't a deterrent.


frick a deterrent. Put the criminals behind bars for lengthy sentences. Prison should be about segregating criminals from civilized society.

We talk too much about what someone deserves, what is fair, etc. If you are a violent person, then you forfeit your life.

Also - a teenager with neck tats is never going straight.
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15858 posts
Posted on 3/19/26 at 10:18 am to
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Prison should be about segregating criminals from civilized society.


100%
Posted by JCdawg
Member since Sep 2014
9550 posts
Posted on 3/19/26 at 10:24 am to
This great. If everyone of these guys were actually taken off the streets we would have to build hard labor camps all over the place to keep them caged. I would support the funding for this. It would also prevent further breeding.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
122902 posts
Posted on 3/19/26 at 10:26 am to
Let me guess, another restorative justice dork?
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15858 posts
Posted on 3/19/26 at 10:28 am to
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Does the family of black folk think they shouldn’t be punished?


Some black youth kicked in a man's door to rob him and he shot them. The black families then tried a lawsuit on him.
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