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re: Judge orders Dept. of Education employees to be reinstated
Posted on 5/22/25 at 1:28 pm to imjustafatkid
Posted on 5/22/25 at 1:28 pm to imjustafatkid
It's the whole issue at hand bud, hence the lawsuit
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Posted on 5/22/25 at 1:29 pm to LegendInMyMind
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There is a solution here:
Congress has to kill the DoE.
Good luck with that haha
Posted on 5/22/25 at 1:30 pm to the808bass
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lol. There’s no “statutory positions” at the Dept of Ed.
There's a lot actually.
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The DEOA establishes officers, positions, and offices at ED. For example, these statutory provisions establish the Secretary of Education (hereinafter referred to as the Secretary), Deputy Secretary of Education, and several Assistant Secretary positions (e.g., Assistant Secretary for Elementary and Secondary Education, Assistant Secretary for Postsecondary Education). All of these officers are appointed by the President by and with the advice and consent of the Senate. In addition, the DEOA establishes other positions at ED, such as a director of the Office of Indian Education and a director of the Office of Educational Technology. The DEOA also establishes specified offices including, for example, the Office of Civil Rights (OCR), Office of Elementary and Secondary Education (OESE), Office of Postsecondary Education (OPE), and Office of Special Education and Rehabilitative Services (OSERS).
Posted on 5/22/25 at 1:31 pm to atlgamecockman
No, the reason for the lawsuit is an activist judge with a political agenda. Departments present a proposed budget to Congress, which then approves, rejects or amends the request. It does not involve itself in specific staffing details.
Posted on 5/22/25 at 1:31 pm to imjustafatkid
Wasn’t the DoE created by executive order?
This post was edited on 5/22/25 at 1:33 pm
Posted on 5/22/25 at 1:32 pm to minister of truth
See above.
Posted on 5/22/25 at 1:34 pm to atlgamecockman
So 10 to 12 positions out the whole department of education involve congressional consent. that leaves quite a bit to administrative choice. In fact, some of those positions could be held by the same individual.
Posted on 5/22/25 at 1:36 pm to bigjoe1
Reduction of workforce in DOE was executed March 11th. What have these people been doing for income for the last 2 1/2 months? 
Posted on 5/22/25 at 1:38 pm to bigjoe1
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The Department must be able to carry out its functions and its obligations,” as well as “other relevant statutes as mandated by Congress,”
And judges are qualified to say how many employees are required to fulfill this mandate?
Posted on 5/22/25 at 1:39 pm to bigjoe1
Another loss.
Damnit.
Damnit.
Posted on 5/22/25 at 1:39 pm to minister of truth
Offices here means, like entire offices of people. Not just one position.
And I get that you're having a hard time here, this was just the first DoEd act in like the 70s.... so there's 50 years worth of other legislation that could have created other roles that aren't in the original DOEA. I'm not gonna look them up for you but the pertinent information beyond the impoundment is this:
And I get that you're having a hard time here, this was just the first DoEd act in like the 70s.... so there's 50 years worth of other legislation that could have created other roles that aren't in the original DOEA. I'm not gonna look them up for you but the pertinent information beyond the impoundment is this:
quote:
Section 413(a) of the DEOA authorizes the Secretary to reallocate functions among ED's officers and "establish, consolidate, alter, or discontinue" offices within ED. Exceptions to the reorganization authority granted to the Secretary by Section 413(a) include any office transferred to ED and established by statute or any function of such an office vested in it by statute. Additionally, the Secretary may not use the authority provided under Section 413(a) to abolish any of the offices established by the DEOA or alter the "delegation of functions to any specific organizational entity required by" the DEOA except as permitted by Section 413(b).
Posted on 5/22/25 at 1:40 pm to atlgamecockman
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There's a lot actually.
You listed eight, trucknuts.
I’m fine with keeping eight.
Posted on 5/22/25 at 1:41 pm to bigjoe1
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“The Department must be able to carry out its functions and its obligations,” as well as “other relevant statutes as mandated by Congress,” U.S. District Judge Myong Joun in Boston wrote in the injunction.
Who is to say the department can't without those 1300
Posted on 5/22/25 at 1:41 pm to atlgamecockman
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Offices here means, like entire offices of people. Not just one position.
So two?
Or 57?
Bitch, you don’t know. You’re pulling stuff out of your arse to justify a horrible decision. Just move on.
Posted on 5/22/25 at 1:41 pm to RT1941
Earning taxpayer money without working because the retard in charge appointed a fake wrestling celebrity who knows nothing about congressional funding appropriations and statutory spending.
Really cutting down on the waste aren't we?
Really cutting down on the waste aren't we?
Posted on 5/22/25 at 1:43 pm to the808bass
And you're mad because your guy lost in court but you don't know enough to articulate the reasons why beyond whatever insane media takes you've already ingested and internalized.
Posted on 5/22/25 at 1:43 pm to atlgamecockman
That still does not dictate how those offices are to be staffed.
That does not specify the number of employees per office. You pulled that out your azz.
That does not specify the number of employees per office. You pulled that out your azz.
This post was edited on 5/22/25 at 1:45 pm
Posted on 5/22/25 at 1:44 pm to atlgamecockman
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It's the whole issue at hand bud, hence the lawsuit
Nope, it isn't, and the lawsuit will fail. This judge is an activist
Posted on 5/22/25 at 1:45 pm to minister of truth
Well that's kind of the problem because I'm pretty sure not staffing them by eliminating the position is against the law haha
Posted on 5/22/25 at 1:46 pm to atlgamecockman
You can staff a department with one person if necessary.
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