re: Judge Boasberg 4pm hearing demanding answers from Trump Adm: ACLU filing of VZ gang

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This is largely due to a contingent on here who can't separate legal (especially procedural or jurisdictional) arguments from arguments on the underlying merits, and their increase in anger as the merits are ignored as part of the discussion (Despite their best attempts to focus only on the merits and ignore the legal aspects).

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The merits of a case are most closely tied to justice. People are much less interested in the procedural aspects, naturally. I've read some books and book chapters from judges. They all claim to want to see justice done and blah blah blah, but they have a really strong tendency to not see that through. They'll cite procedure or precedent even when they know it thwarts justice and since the outcome never affects them, they don't care. But if their ideological or partisan interests are at stake, they'll jump through their arse to reach the conclusion they want. They'll reject precedent wave procedure.

When the justice system works like that, no one is going to care about any degree of rigor and adherence to procedure. In a system that deliberately avoids the pursuit of justice, no one cares about its adherence to procedure.

Justice takes precedence over procedure. If that wasn't the case, it would be called the procedural system, not the justice system. I'm not suggesting anarchy in the courts, but they have no one to blame but themselves for what is happening right now and the declining respect for judges, the courts, and the justice system overall.

These slapdick fricks side with Big Gov every chance they get, and it's always their version of Big Gov, not anything anchored to the Constitution. Let a veteran seek coverage for Agent Orange and a judge will buy every lie and argument from the govt, no matter how absurd. Let the FBI frame someone and the judges will go along with it. Let the judge discover prosecutorial misconduct (like in the Ted Stevens case) and they'll feign disgust but do nothing.

Our judiciary sucks.

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You're gonna be singing the blues if this jackwad minor league judge ends up being the catalyst that ends up in Marbury v. Madison getting overturned.

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Game this out for me. That could only be overturned by SCOTUS. That is the precedent which gives SCOTUS all its power. Why would SCOTUS ever overturn Marbury vs. Madison? They instantly become an impotent branch of government. What branch of government in the history of man has willingly cut off its own power?

How do you envision this going down and what standard comes behind it? Who decides if a law is Constitutional at that point? I can’t see a scenario this happens in.

This is the way.

SFP and Hank are going to be so pissed! I can’t wait for them to explain to us the legal technicalities that trump’s legal team just crossed!

Can the judge order these criminals back? Can he fine the executive branch?

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We get it. You don't know how to meme.

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Can you explain it to me like it’s the constitution?

Denied. The meme is valid.

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I just can see all the ways the DEMs will abuse this, if it's ruled legal.

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You can see it because it already happened. They already weaponized the judiciary. This Boasberg guy is their 007 agent.

Boy. Decatur and SFP. Two peas in the same pod. Trump-haters extraordinaire.