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Jordan Peterson on rogue schools: take your kids out

Posted on 3/8/18 at 7:05 am
Posted by tigerpawl
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Posted on 3/8/18 at 7:05 am
Peterson's fed up with the far left ideology creeping into school curriculums. Watch until the end when he gives specific advice to parents.



Tucker Carlson Interview
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Posted on 3/8/18 at 7:08 am to
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Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/8/18 at 7:08 am to
seems like there i a legit, emerging market for providing homeschool options. i bet with technology and e-learning, you could make this into a profitable endeavor (or hell, in LA, create a charter school option and use that sweet, sweet public money)
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 3/8/18 at 7:12 am to
Who wouldn't pay a fee a month to have a small school in a neighborhood. You'd only need a couple of teachers. The fee would cover a small building and the teacher's salaries.
Posted by Boatshoes
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Posted on 3/8/18 at 7:13 am to
There's an outstanding Online Christian homeschool out of Mississippi called NorthStar Academy. Costs are reasonable and everything is decentralized so the teachers and students can be anywhere in the world. Testing is multiple choice online or scanned documents through PDFs. Projects can be submitted through PowerPoint, scanned pdf, MP3 audio or MP4 video. Teachers have office hours and are reachable through Skype. It is so advanced it blows away the best public schools, Technology has advanced to the point that there is absolutely no reason to build brick and mortar schools anymore.
Posted by GooseSix
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Posted on 3/8/18 at 7:14 am to
Was a great segment last night.
Posted by tigerpawl
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Posted on 3/8/18 at 7:22 am to
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There's an outstanding Online Christian homeschool out of Mississippi called NorthStar Academy.
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Teachers have office hours and are reachable through Skype.
This is interesting. My only concern would be the "virtual" presence of a teacher as opposed to the "actual" presence of a teacher. Just wondering - in a psychological sense - if there is a downside. Also, I think the lack of interaction with other kids would be a concern but may be overcome with a parental game plan outside of school hours.
Posted by Tiger Lake
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Posted on 3/8/18 at 7:22 am to
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Who wouldn't pay a fee a month to have a small school in a neighborhood. You'd only need a couple of teachers. The fee would cover a small building and the teacher's salaries.


It's called a private school. I'm a product of one. There are many in this country...Catholic schools, Christian non-denominational schools, just plain private schools. Americans are fed up with the shite show that public education has become.
This post was edited on 3/8/18 at 7:24 am
Posted by Damone
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Posted on 3/8/18 at 7:23 am to
Jordan Peterson is a STUD
Posted by McLemore
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Posted on 3/8/18 at 7:24 am to
quote:

seems like there i a legit, emerging market for providing homeschool options. i bet with technology and e-learning, you could make this into a profitable endeavor (or hell, in LA, create a charter school option and use that sweet, sweet public money)


I've been talking about this for decades, and now the tech is finally there to make it practicable.
Posted by AUstar
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Posted on 3/8/18 at 7:25 am to
From what I hear even a lot of Catholic schools have gone full SJW.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/8/18 at 7:29 am to
you have 2 major selling points to non-leftists that don't involve religion

1. due to the progressive feminization of school, boys are literally being left behind. these schools would offer them the chance to keep up

2. so many schools are tools of indoctrination. these schools would offer sanctuary from this
Posted by Lsupimp
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Posted on 3/8/18 at 7:34 am to
No . I can’t take my kids “ out “ . I can only educate them better and immerse them in a vision of American life that is superior. Withdrawing from the culture is impossible. You have to immerse them with Truth by actively challenging them to think and exposing them to a superior competing vision. It’s worked for me. You have to teach them to think,not hide them from Progressive idiocy.
Posted by tigerpawl
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Posted on 3/8/18 at 7:35 am to
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From what I hear even a lot of Catholic schools have gone full SJW.

This. I'm not saying any specific religion, but liberals are legendary in the "creep" method of pushing their agenda. It's imperceptibly slow, but persistent. Read the fable about the Camel's nose under the tent. When your garden is left unchecked, weeds grow.
Posted by jacob4bama
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Posted on 3/8/18 at 7:35 am to
Just goes to show parents are responsible for teaching children not school teachers.

I find it problematic that we expect are young children to be in school as much as they are. There are preschoolers that spend more time with teachers than parents.
Posted by STEVED00
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Posted on 3/8/18 at 7:38 am to
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seems like there i a legit, emerging market for providing homeschool options. i bet with technology and e-learning, you could make this into a profitable endeavor (or hell, in LA, create a charter school option and use that sweet, sweet public money)



There are more and more options everyday. There are currently a few homeschool hybrid programs in NO metro area (1 or 2 days in a traditional classroom format).

If you and your spouse can handle it, it is definitely a worthwhile investment. A lot of traditional school especially for the younger ages is just day care for your children. This is even more evident due to the excessive amount of HW traditional school kids are assigned.
Posted by Golfer
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Posted on 3/8/18 at 7:41 am to
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From what I hear even a lot of Catholic schools have gone full SJW.


Eh. Depends on the school. Jesuit-run, sure. But that’s been the case forever.

Big thing is the parental engagement. We had a principal hired at my Catholic elementary school that tried to enact some Alternative teaching methods often contrary to Catholic doctrine. She was dismissed after one year.
Posted by Boatshoes
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Posted on 3/8/18 at 7:44 am to
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This is interesting. My only concern would be the "virtual" presence of a teacher as opposed to the "actual" presence of a teacher. Just wondering - in a psychological sense - if there is a downside. Also, I think the lack of interaction with other kids would be a concern but may be overcome with a parental game plan outside of school hours.


It works very well. One of the reasons is that as a public school teacher, you have no leverage to use to ensure that a child completes his or her work or behaves beyond the artificial disciplinary system of the public school. A parent teacher has no such limitations. Allowances can be curtailed, privileges can be revoked. The single learner environment reduces distractions and allows for coursework to be completed at a much faster pace because the retail teacher or tutor is not wasting the learner's time with questions from a dozen, two, or three other learners as the wholesale teacher would.

As far as socializing, the advent of social media has really made that a mute point. The school has a student council and online forums and chat rooms that are strictly moderated...and there are always the commercial social media outlets if the kids want to socialize. In person activities such as field trips organized by local home school coops, club sports not affiliated with schools if you are a talented athlete, and church youth groups take up the slack.

As far as I can tell, there are no downsides. As a public school grad myself, I wish something like this would have been an option when I was a kid.
This post was edited on 3/8/18 at 7:46 am
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
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Posted on 3/8/18 at 7:46 am to
The thing is, homeschooling takes a shite ton of work. It’s a full time job and you must treat it as such. You can’t half arse it and be successful. Too many parents are not smart enough/desicated enough to homeschool and too many that fit into this category don’t realize it.

If you can’t dedicate 40+ hours a week to teaching, don’t homeschool. If you are motivated and determined enough, do it. It is a fantastic alternative to public schools. I will never admonish a parent for caring what and how their child learns and because of that I fully support homeschooling. But do your research to find the proper curriculum and be prepared to work
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
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Posted on 3/8/18 at 7:47 am to
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