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re: Jim Jordan stepping down from Speaker race. Total disaster

Posted on 10/19/23 at 12:41 pm to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296157 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 12:41 pm to
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MAGA is the uniparty now?


Who sided with Democrats to remove McCarthy with no real plan?

The Democrats are laughing their asses off at y'all.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14675 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 12:42 pm to
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Imagine dumping a speaker with no real plan in place.

And many here applauded it. These people are doing the work of leftists



The speaker they dumped was doing the work of leftists, so what's the difference?
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
88711 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 12:44 pm to
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How do you know what back door deals and jockeying was happening?


With Gaetz?


Confirmation you don't comprehend what you're reading. No shock you've gone full GOPe stooge
Posted by BearCrocs
Member since Aug 2013
8212 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 12:45 pm to
What’s trump doing
Posted by Crimson1st
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2010
20764 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 12:45 pm to
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With Gaetz? Its a publicity stunt. He had no plan in place. It was obvious from the start.


Publicity stunt? Again I ask how you can say he didn’t have a plan? What if Gaetz’s plan was to work on a Jim Jordan type getting elected? Just because it didn’t work out doesn’t mean it wasn’t a plan. Nor does it mean he should have accepted the original lies McCarthy told him to get his vote from jump to become Speaker? You seem to conveniently overlook this part of the equation.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35698 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 12:46 pm to
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Which is wholly unconstitutional.

How so?
Posted by texas tortilla
houston
Member since Dec 2015
4004 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 12:46 pm to
trump should have formed a new party. there is absolutely no reason to support republicans.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35698 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 12:47 pm to
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Just because it didn’t work out doesn’t mean it wasn’t a plan

You’re right. It was just a really bad plan.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
21797 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 12:47 pm to
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Jim Jordan stepping down from Speaker race. Total disaster

I don't miss the House doing work. They can frick around/not get anything passed for eternity and the country would be the better for it.
Posted by LaMigra
Member since Nov 2022
2708 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 12:48 pm to
LMAO at all the pearl snatchers on this thread!!

Get a grip people, the less the government does the better!

The Republican Party is a fricking mess, no doubt! Full of swamp creatures just like the democrats!

Let’s see what happens

Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35698 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 12:49 pm to
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Get a grip people, the less the government does the better!

This situation has no impact on what the government does. They just aren’t doing it today. They’ll do it all as soon as they are back.
Posted by Crimson1st
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2010
20764 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 12:50 pm to
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Who sided with Democrats to remove McCarthy with no real plan?


Oh so now you’re saying a “real plan”…again conflating a real plan with a successful plan. I’m saying many “unsuccessful plans” are quite real as well.

And don’t say this isn’t important because it’s the basis many of you centrist Republicans are using to bash Gaetz with…that he didn’t have a plan…rather than seeing his plan was done in by YOUR crew, ergo they shoulder most of the original and continuing blame in this situation.
This post was edited on 10/19/23 at 12:51 pm
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
28999 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 12:50 pm to
I called this last week and am remaining steadfast in my belief that Scalise will ultimately be named the next Speaker if he wants it.
Posted by Marshhen
Port Eads
Member since Nov 2018
945 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 12:50 pm to
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Who sided with Democrats to remove McCarthy with no real plan? The Democrats are laughing their asses off at y'all.


Again, does the same hold true for Bacon and the latest round voting against Jordan? Are they now working with Democrats ??

And your last statement is the reason the Republicans are in the position that we are in right now …. You guys actually care what Democrats think of you. It’s like you want them to like you so you are part of the big club. Pathetic
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
41759 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 12:52 pm to
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Publicity stunt? Again I ask how you can say he didn’t have a plan? What if Gaetz’s plan was to work on a Jim Jordan type getting elected? Just because it didn’t work out doesn’t mean it wasn’t a plan. Nor does it mean he should have accepted the original lies McCarthy told him to get his vote from jump to become Speaker? You seem to conveniently overlook this part of the equation.


Where did Gaetz go? Who did he push as a replacement?

McCarhy got the votes. No one else has. That alone is more than any of the others are doing.

Gaetz had not advanced the conservative agenda. Gaetz has not pushed the party forward. Gaetz has not really accomplished anything. My hope is things won’t get worse.

Posted by mb6355
Member since Apr 2020
228 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 12:52 pm to
Gaetz exposed the uni-party for everyone to see.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296157 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 12:53 pm to
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And your last statement is the reason the Republicans are in the position that we are in right now


Im not bashing McCarthy's removal, I'm bashing the utter lack of organization and plan.

Posted by Crimson1st
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2010
20764 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 12:53 pm to
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You’re right. It was just a really bad plan


Not necessarily…maybe it turned bad because some limp wristed Republicans turned what was a good plan into a bad one.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35698 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 12:55 pm to
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Not necessarily…maybe it turned bad because some limp wristed Republicans turned what was a good plan into a bad one.

As if Gaetz didn’t know how this would go?

Everyone knew how this would go. Everyone.

And yes, if Gaetz truly had no idea how the conference would vote after removing McCarthy, it was an awful plan. There was never any chance that it wouldn’t be a clown show—-and all of it to gain nothing.
This post was edited on 10/19/23 at 12:57 pm
Posted by gumbeaux
Member since Jun 2004
4994 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 12:56 pm to
Have they voted yet today? Did he step down before another vote?
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