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re: Jesus was from Nazareth

Posted on 12/20/25 at 4:02 am to
Posted by drkirk90
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Posted on 12/20/25 at 4:02 am to
No, no…
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
38045 posts
Posted on 12/20/25 at 5:18 am to
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He was born of a virgin mother and His Father was not of this world.
You left out murdered and came back to life.
Anyone who believes this is not only easily fooled, but also has NO business questioning ANYONE else’s beliefs.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 12/20/25 at 5:18 am to
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He was a Nazarene. Nazarene was in Galilee and Galilee was in Israel. Not Judaea. Making Jesus NOT a Jew.
Yikes.

During the reigns of David and Solomon (~1000BC), Galilee was part of their expanded Jewish kingdom. It became part of the Northern Kingdom of Israel, but was subsequently taken by the Assyrians and held for ~five centuries.

In the 2nd–1st centuries BC, the Jewish Hasmonean rulers expanded northward and reincorporated Galilee into the Jewish state. The region's population became predominantly Jewish through settlement by Jews from Judea, and assimilation/conversion of local populations. By the time of Herod the Great (late 1st century BCE), Galilee was solidly Jewish. Nazareth was a very small settlement (likely formed in that timeframe). It was a Jewish community. Most of the miracles recounted in the New Testament were performed in Galilee by “Jesus of Nazareth, the King of the Jews.”
This post was edited on 12/20/25 at 6:37 am
Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
32604 posts
Posted on 12/20/25 at 5:24 am to
Among the dumbest, worst posts I’ve ever seen here. fricking Larry David wasn’t born in Judea, either. He ain’t a Jew? lol you dumbass.
Posted by bluedragon
Birmingham
Member since May 2020
9034 posts
Posted on 12/20/25 at 6:13 am to
70 AD moron…..Herod’s Temple destroyed. You are one sick puppy.
Posted by UncleLogger
Freetown
Member since Jan 2008
3126 posts
Posted on 12/20/25 at 6:25 am to
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70 AD moron…..Herod’s Temple destroyed. You are one sick puppy.


Herod was Jewish in the same spirit as Donald Trump. Geopolitically Jewish but no ethnic Jewish origin. His temple expansion and building campaigns were all done to keep him in the good graces of the Jews that would never accept him as a real Jew.

He was an “Edomite.”
This post was edited on 12/20/25 at 6:33 am
Posted by LSUAlum2001
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Member since Aug 2003
48156 posts
Posted on 12/20/25 at 6:36 am to
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Jews weren’t considered Jews because they lived in Judea….


You mean it’s not spelled Jewdea?
Posted by DarthTiger
Member since Sep 2005
3216 posts
Posted on 12/20/25 at 6:42 am to
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The Old testament said He would be born from the house of David.


But he was not born of the bloodline of David.
Posted by NewbombII
Member since Nov 2014
5534 posts
Posted on 12/20/25 at 7:00 am to
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But he was not born of the bloodline of David.


Mary was in the bloodline of David.
Posted by cssamerican
Member since Mar 2011
7940 posts
Posted on 12/20/25 at 7:03 am to
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It works Scripturally. I don’t know enough to speak on etymological reasoning.

Even if Jesus were understood in Nazirite terms, that would not affect his ethnic identity, he would still be Jewish by descent, including Davidic lineage as traditionally claimed.

The point I’m making is that ethnically Jesus was Jewish. However, the religion practiced during the Second Temple period is not the same as what modern Jews practice today. After the destruction of the Temple, that religious tradition diverged among Jews at the time. One stream followed the Pharisaic tradition, which eventually developed into Rabbinic Judaism. This included the introduction of new interpretive frameworks such as the Mishnah, Midrash, and later rabbinic authorities, along with changes in religious requirements, resulting in a tradition that is meaningfully distinct from Temple Judaism.

Another stream followed “the Way,” which later became known as Christianity. From this perspective, Christianity represents the continuation of Temple-period Judaism, whereas Rabbinic Judaism can be understood as a divergent religious development, comparable, in structural terms, to how Islam relates to earlier biblical traditions.

For these reasons, the Christian community is not theologically bound to the Jewish community as it exists today. Christianity does not derive from Rabbinic Judaism; rather, both traditions emerged from the same Second Temple context and developed along separate trajectories after the destruction of the Temple. Any modern alignment between Christians and the State of Israel is therefore not a matter of religious obligation or doctrinal continuity, but largely a political and historical response. In particular, the rise and actions of Islam, along with the legacy of Nazi atrocities and the moral reckoning following World War II, have shaped Western Christian sympathies. When Christians take a political stance, it is often because one side appears more culturally or morally aligned with their values, not because Christianity is dependent on, or subordinate to, modern Judaism.
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 12/20/25 at 7:08 am to
Jesus was very much of you where you need to draw. The distinction is not Jewish or not but Jewish or Zionist. Jesus was a Jew. He was not a Zionist.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
13573 posts
Posted on 12/20/25 at 7:10 am to
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I am sad and confused they refuse to understand Who they so roundly reject.

Have a latke and don't worry about us.
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
10299 posts
Posted on 12/20/25 at 7:11 am to
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So, it's safe to say Matthew was written by Jews for a Jewish audience?


Matthew was inspired by God to write his account. What we see in that Gospel is what God wanted us to see. To deny that is to deny God's sovereignty and really to just deny God entirely.

It would be quite silly to be a Christian and believe otherwise. Matthew himself probably was asked to write down his account by early believers and the very early Church which at that time was probably mostly Jews and those at least familiar with Jews.
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
43324 posts
Posted on 12/20/25 at 7:15 am to
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The point I’m making is that ethnically Jesus was Jewish. However, the religion practiced during the Second Temple period is not the same as what modern Jews practice today. After the destruction of the Temple, that religious tradition diverged among Jews at the time. One stream followed the Pharisaic tradition, which eventually developed into Rabbinic Judaism. This included the introduction of new interpretive frameworks such as the Mishnah, Midrash, and later rabbinic authorities, along with changes in religious requirements, resulting in a tradition that is meaningfully distinct from Temple Judaism.


Thank you for describing it this way. I couldn't distinguish it as eloquently as you.
Posted by 19
Flux Capacitor, Fluxing
Member since Nov 2007
35514 posts
Posted on 12/20/25 at 7:17 am to
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Galilee and Galilee was in Israel. Not Judaea. Making Jesus NOT a Jew.


Holy shite.
Never go full-Jewtard.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
13573 posts
Posted on 12/20/25 at 7:19 am to
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He was not a Zionist.

There's no need for Zionism when we were, as of the moment... already on our own fricking land.
Posted by redneck hippie
Oklahoma
Member since Dec 2008
6291 posts
Posted on 12/20/25 at 7:25 am to
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He was born of a virgin mother and His Father was not of this world.


I have a bridge to sell you
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
27011 posts
Posted on 12/20/25 at 8:13 am to
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He is no unicorn.


Correct, he is a child killing narcissist. Or, more accurately, nonexistent.
This post was edited on 12/20/25 at 8:14 am
Posted by DarthTiger
Member since Sep 2005
3216 posts
Posted on 12/20/25 at 8:14 am to
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Mary was in the bloodline of David.


I stand corrected if so.

From what I read, it was assumed but not concretely laid out. Are there any documents outside of the Bible that shows Mary was the daughter of Heli? Or was it assumed b/c Joseph was called his "son" assumed to mean son-in-law?
This post was edited on 12/20/25 at 8:15 am
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
93840 posts
Posted on 12/20/25 at 8:16 am to
Groypers are ghey and stoopid. Your cult leader is a moron
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