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re: James webb tele proving big bang theory probably is inaccurate

Posted on 9/8/22 at 8:55 pm to
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Posted on 9/8/22 at 8:55 pm to
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The BBT intends to put us at the center of an unknowable universe and that alone disproves it.


How, exactly?

Posted by hubertcumberdale
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 9/8/22 at 8:58 pm to
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How could you, a human, comprehend anything outside of space and time?


So your logical conclusion is that some being created it? Who created the being?

It is my contention that god is prob as real as santa claus
Posted by VolcanicTiger
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Posted on 9/8/22 at 8:58 pm to
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There were people outside of the garden of Eden. Cain feared they would kiill him if he was forced out.
Wasn't specifically "people". Could've been Neanderthals, Nephilim, Annunaki, lizard people... just to throw these out there.
Posted by omegaman66
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Posted on 9/8/22 at 8:59 pm to
The center of the universe is measured as where ever you measure it from. Antichristians love to claim we aren’t special. According to God we all are special. According to science each of os is the center of our universe. Strange and neat.
Posted by hubertcumberdale
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Posted on 9/8/22 at 9:01 pm to
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Antichristians love to claim we aren’t special


What makes you think humans are different than any other living entity? Why are humans so special?
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
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Posted on 9/8/22 at 9:02 pm to
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Antichristians love to claim we aren’t special.


As non-religious, I'd say we're damn special whether there are millions of advanced civilizations or none.

Posted by VolcanicTiger
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Posted on 9/8/22 at 9:02 pm to
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So your logical conclusion is that some being created it? Who created the being?

It is my contention that god is prob as real as santa claus
Science is more and more coming to the uncomfortable (for some) realization that things don't exist until they are observed, and that the conscious is not an annoying inexplicable artefact of a mysterious brain, but rather the top of the hierarchy, so it would only make sense that, for there to have been a big bang, there must have been an observer.

Everything you think you know is wrong, and you have the relative reasoning skills of a goldfish. This applies to all of us, although to some more accurately than others.
Posted by hubertcumberdale
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Posted on 9/8/22 at 9:02 pm to
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hubertcumberdale has left the chat.



lmfao bc i didnt reply to you in 15 minutes?
Posted by QboveTopSecret
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Posted on 9/8/22 at 9:04 pm to
We see that our universe contains complex internal structure if there is any thing with some complex internal structure, then that thing was produced by an intelligent designer therefore, our universe has an intelligent designer.

There is an earliest and causally original designer. It is the unmoved mover; the uncaused cause; the undesigned designer. It is more powerful than and more intelligent than every finite civilization. It is infinitely powerful and intelligent. It is an infinitely powerful mind. It guides the activities of a the civilizations of which it is the cause.
Posted by subotic
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Posted on 9/8/22 at 9:05 pm to
I don't claim to know how the simulation was created, only that you are ascribing the limitations of the human mind to the creator which is completely outside of our comprehension.
This post was edited on 9/8/22 at 9:07 pm
Posted by hubertcumberdale
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 9/8/22 at 9:05 pm to
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Science is more and more coming to the uncomfortable (for some) realization that things don't exist until they are observed


lmfao do you realize that the definition of 'observing' is shining light onto something (light interacts with matter)? A physical person does not need light photons to enter their eye for something to exist
Posted by hubertcumberdale
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Posted on 9/8/22 at 9:05 pm to
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Exactly
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
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Posted on 9/8/22 at 9:05 pm to
Why are humans special. Because humans built the jwst for starters. That is pretty darned impressive! You can not name another species that has done that. Oh, and God said so.
Posted by hubertcumberdale
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 9/8/22 at 9:07 pm to
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Everything you think you know is wrong, and you have the relative reasoning skills of a goldfish. This applies to all of us, although to some more accurately than others.



yeah i dont subscribe to your religious beliefs so therefore im wrong lmfao
Posted by subotic
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Posted on 9/8/22 at 9:08 pm to
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lmfao bc i didnt reply to you in 15 minutes?


No, only that you should have turned tail as soon as you posted this nonsense.

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How did a creator come to existence out of thin air, since you are a proponent of thermodynamics and the second law? The big bang theory sets into motion the second law of thermodynamics
Posted by hubertcumberdale
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 9/8/22 at 9:08 pm to
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Why are humans special. Because humans built the jwst for starters. That is pretty darned impressive!


What about humans 500 years ago? 1000 years ago? 10000 years ago?
Posted by hubertcumberdale
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 9/8/22 at 9:09 pm to
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No, only that you should have turned tail as soon as you posted this nonsense.


What is nonsensical about it?
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Posted on 9/8/22 at 9:10 pm to
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yeah cuz without that precious big bang, we might have to give credit to a creator.


Cosmic inflation was discovered by a Catholic priest.
Posted by subotic
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 9/8/22 at 9:12 pm to
All of it.

Why would the creator be bound by his creation? Why would the laws of thermodynamics apply to the creator?
Posted by hubertcumberdale
Member since Nov 2009
6509 posts
Posted on 9/8/22 at 9:13 pm to
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Why would the creator be bound by his creation? Why would the laws of thermodynamics apply to the creator?


Ok in your magical fairy tale land i guess the laws of physics dont apply to some supernatural entity that you literally only believe bc your family raised you that way
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