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re: Jack Smith says US Presidents HAVE NO 1st Amendment rights to allege election fraud!!
Posted on 1/1/26 at 9:56 am to KiwiHead
Posted on 1/1/26 at 9:56 am to KiwiHead
quote:
Stop trying to make this case something it is not
Dishonesty is the currency of these MAGA content creators
This post was edited on 1/1/26 at 9:57 am
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Posted on 1/1/26 at 9:56 am to lsuguy84
quote:This information is not included in the clip, because such clips (when posted on this forum) NEVER include the segments necessary to understand the context in which a given Ragebait statement is made.
Smith: "A statement made with know falsity is not protected by the First Amendment."quote:
What was the known falsity in this instance?
My recollection is that Smith developed facts to confirm that Trump had "actual knowledge" that his claims of "election fraud" were utterly baseless.
This post was edited on 1/1/26 at 10:00 am
Posted on 1/1/26 at 9:57 am to Timeoday
Smith has all the credibility of a stale fart. He's the Constitution's worst nightmare
This post was edited on 1/1/26 at 9:58 am
Posted on 1/1/26 at 9:59 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
What's your issue with correcting a lie?
You aren’t correcting shite. You’re trying to clean up your hero’s statement like you always do when a leftist tells us what they really think.
Posted on 1/1/26 at 9:59 am to BobBoucher
quote:So, your position is that it is perfectly acceptable for to make such knowingly-false statements?
“You can’t knowingly make false statements about a lawful government function. That is fraud”.
quote:Or is it your position that this is perfectly acceptable if other people are doing it, too?
Just a few years after Hillary Clinton said the same statement.
Posted on 1/1/26 at 10:00 am to SlowFlowPro
The obvious syllogism we’re pedanting:
The First Amendment does not protect a speaker against the consequences of his fraudulent utterances.
Every president is a speaker.
Everything Trump says about election fraud is a fraudulent utterance.
Trump is a president.
Ergo nothing Trump says about election fraud is protected by the First Amendment.
Eta: this board cracks me up. Clearly from the context of this thread, at least 75% of people who downvoted this post thought it was in support of Jack Smith.
The remainder of the downvotes were from SFP and his literal-minded alters.
The First Amendment does not protect a speaker against the consequences of his fraudulent utterances.
Every president is a speaker.
Everything Trump says about election fraud is a fraudulent utterance.
Trump is a president.
Ergo nothing Trump says about election fraud is protected by the First Amendment.
Eta: this board cracks me up. Clearly from the context of this thread, at least 75% of people who downvoted this post thought it was in support of Jack Smith.
The remainder of the downvotes were from SFP and his literal-minded alters.
This post was edited on 1/1/26 at 6:52 pm
Posted on 1/1/26 at 10:00 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
Jack Smith
quote:
SFP
How sad are you that you and your dream lover could never have children together?
PS - I'm 100% certain you'd keep trying, though.
Posted on 1/1/26 at 10:01 am to thebigmuffaletta
quote:
You aren’t correcting shite.
But I did, specifically.
quote:
You’re trying to clean up your hero’s statement
I posted Jack Smith's statement.
OP's thread title was not Jack Smith's statement. That was a lie.
Hence, I corrected the lie.
Now that we've established both the lie and me correcting it: What's your issue with correcting a lie?
Posted on 1/1/26 at 10:01 am to McLemore
quote:ONLY if the statement is made with actual knowledge of its falsity.
Everything Trump says about election fraud is a fraudulent utterance.
This is not a difficult concept to understand.
Posted on 1/1/26 at 10:02 am to KCT
quote:
How sad are you that you and your dream lover could never have children together?
PS - I'm 100% certain you'd keep trying, though.
What's your issue with correcting a lie?
Posted on 1/1/26 at 10:03 am to McLemore
quote:
Everything Trump says about election fraud is a fraudulent utterance.
No. Not everything. If you listened to the clip he even gets into this a bit, and the indictment does even further.
Posted on 1/1/26 at 10:03 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:Has ToD EVER properly-characterized the substance of one of these little video clips that he posts multiple times per day?
OP's thread title was not Jack Smith's statement. That was a lie.
I don't recall any such instance.
Posted on 1/1/26 at 10:04 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
That is literally not what he said
He said, "We wanted to make clear that this was not about, um, trying to interfere with anyone's first amendment rights" and "fraud is not protected by the first amendment"
Did he ever establish that any fraudulent action was even attempted?
The speech he made encouraged his followers to 'go support our representatives' as they challenge the electors === there has been elector challenges in almost every election I can remember. There is no fraud there.
So - what is the fraudulent action?
There is certainly no fraud that compares to what the Obama/HRC duo cooked up for the RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA hoax.
Posted on 1/1/26 at 10:04 am to SlowFlowPro
You just prove everyone right that you only defend or "correct lies" when its against tLeft
Its amazing you still deny that
Its amazing you still deny that
Posted on 1/1/26 at 10:04 am to SlowFlowPro
It was a joke retards.
Eta: also you missed the “obvious” part: if you think Jack Smith meant anything different then bless your retarded heart.
Eta2 for the power-bottom pedants—
The following condition was the obvious import of what Jack Smith is saying, dreaming, masturbating too, and allowing to live rent free inside his gaping mangina:
“Everything Trump says about election fraud is a fraudulent utterance.”
So we can add another airtight conclusion: SFP and his tranny-alter, living vicariously through Jack Smith, also have gaping manginas with Trump-fraud totems as squatters.
Eta: also you missed the “obvious” part: if you think Jack Smith meant anything different then bless your retarded heart.
Eta2 for the power-bottom pedants—
The following condition was the obvious import of what Jack Smith is saying, dreaming, masturbating too, and allowing to live rent free inside his gaping mangina:
“Everything Trump says about election fraud is a fraudulent utterance.”
So we can add another airtight conclusion: SFP and his tranny-alter, living vicariously through Jack Smith, also have gaping manginas with Trump-fraud totems as squatters.
This post was edited on 1/1/26 at 11:44 am
Posted on 1/1/26 at 10:05 am to Timeoday
Inalienable rights, bro. For everyone, not limited to the discretion of butt hurt lawyers who deserve to be in jail.
Posted on 1/1/26 at 10:06 am to RelentlessAnalysis
Neither side has properly presented evidence and it has not been litigated to prove either side. It’s not “knowingly false”. The government hasn’t proven it doesn’t happen and hasn’t proven it didn’t happen in 2020. Unfortunately, I don’t think we ever get to a point where all the cards are on the table and we put this all to rest.
Posted on 1/1/26 at 10:06 am to ChineseBandit58
quote:Did you ever bother to read the indictment that he presented against Trump?
Did he ever establish that any fraudulent action was even attempted?
Posted on 1/1/26 at 10:07 am to ChineseBandit58
quote:
Did he ever establish that any fraudulent action was even attempted?
We didn't get that far in the litigation.
Posted on 1/1/26 at 10:08 am to lsuguy84
quote:
Neither side has properly presented evidence and it has not been litigated to prove either side. It’s not “knowingly false”.
That's what the litigation was for, but that's not what's being discussed in the clip in OP.
The government had the burden to prove that the statements were fraudulent, beyond a reasonable doubt. If they could not do this, then Trump would have won.
quote:
Unfortunately, I don’t think we ever get to a point where all the cards are on the table and we put this all to rest.
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