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re: I've been seeing a lot of why do we get to chose...why do we intervene...why do we
Posted on 6/18/25 at 3:24 pm to sidewalkside
Posted on 6/18/25 at 3:24 pm to sidewalkside
That’s what this board doesn’t understand about Russia/Ukraine. It’s about making the US quitting on being the enforcers and most powerful country in the world.
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Posted on 6/18/25 at 3:25 pm to David_DJS
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As logical as the theater our government orchestrates to sell us on the latest "existential threat!"
White Christian Nationalists.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 3:38 pm to Keltic Tiger
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Explain to us dummies what countries, stable or otherwise, were serious, country-threatening to Rome? Do you really want Hamas, Syria, ISSIS, the Taliban to have access to nuclear weapons? Israel intel has already provided proof that Iran's radical leaders have indicated they will supply those countries with nuclear weapons they are able to develop. It's the always - stated, with no proof, that it's the MIC / global elites who are pushing the U.S. into war.
Here's a quick list of what is attributed to the fall of Rome, tell me when it sounds familiar to you.
Internal corruption, economic troubles, military issues and external invasions.
It was not a sudden thing, it was gradual over time.
And there were other kingdoms that existed at the time, Barbarian tribes, kings, etc. If anything, they had way more legit threats than we do and that was part of the reason for the fall. They were regularly attacked in their "lands". But that is often because it grew so large, claiming the entire Mediterranean Sea, the middle east and a large part of Europe until about midway Germany. They eventually lost to a Germanic Barbaric King.
It was then split in 2 and further fractured over time.
You can also take a look at it's rise. It started out as a tiny republic, and kept growing as a republic. Then basically the democrats ruined it by turning it from a republic to an empire.
I'm not a historian, but it's quite interesting stuff. The US is on the same path. Started out as a small republican, turned into an empire, is overextending itself, has corruption and everything else that comes with an empire and the entire reason people wanted a republic to start with.
The same Israeli Intelligence that has claimed Iran was about to have a nuke for the past 30 years?
Are they also storing the mobile WMD lab that Saddam had with them?
This post was edited on 6/18/25 at 3:40 pm
Posted on 6/18/25 at 3:41 pm to Nosevens
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I’m unaware of any country that’s ever been entire country when Americans entered. Even Germany was helped as well as Japan with their huge infrastructure destruction
We literally overthrew the democratic government of Iran and installed a brutal dictator that reigned for decades.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 5:03 pm to 3down10
We didn’t enter as you said into Iran with the overthrow did we. We surely looked to better ourselves with a government that that wasn’t moving in a Marxist direction. Would it be your idea to ignore what happens outside the continental borders of America?
Posted on 6/18/25 at 5:04 pm to LSUbest
Where does this stop?
Posted on 6/18/25 at 5:07 pm to sidewalkside
It’s because we are able to print money and the rest of the world has to eat it and actually pay their bills.
You don’t maintain that level of power without a huge stick.
You don’t maintain that level of power without a huge stick.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 5:09 pm to sidewalkside
Stop cutting off the rattler.
The head of the snake resides in washedupton with a democrat mask.
The head of the snake resides in washedupton with a democrat mask.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 5:13 pm to Nosevens
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We didn’t enter as you said into Iran with the overthrow did we. We surely looked to better ourselves with a government that that wasn’t moving in a Marxist direction. Would it be your idea to ignore what happens outside the continental borders of America?
So it's ok to overthrow a government as long as you don't use the military to do it?
I guess that makes it ok for Israel to own ours.
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Would it be your idea to ignore what happens outside the continental borders of America?
As a nation when it comes to war? Absolutely. I don't know why you believe you have the right to other peoples property/wealth to pay for all this shite. You are supporting the people of the US to have their wealth stolen and their lives sacrificed, so that you can go around the world spreading death and destruction to any cause you think is "good".
Now, as a free person, you should however be allowed to donate your own money to such causes, volunteer your own life if you wish to any such causes. I would never infringe on your rights to spend your own money and resources/life on these things.
But for some reason, that's never good enough. It's gotta be someone else's money and lives that pay for it. All the while gas lighting the people who pay that price to get it done.
There are plenty of things we can do with other countries. Trade, visit, exchange ideas and advancements(aka basically all trade).
This post was edited on 6/18/25 at 5:14 pm
Posted on 6/18/25 at 5:15 pm to Alabama Slim
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Overextension and crippling debt is how empires crumble.
+ fighting in stupider wars that bear no positive outcome for that empire
Posted on 6/18/25 at 5:30 pm to 3down10
Wow what a rant. Nowhere was it said about taking free stuff. When this was done in the Marxist overthrow, in which America didn’t take Iran, times were more insecure world wide and resources were being sought while fighting against an ideology that certainly be worse for America. If a country was strong enough to conquer America would you expect otherwise? Obviously the career politicians with both hands out to MIC, Pharma and others will never allow Americans to get better but I damn well don’t want additional troubles due to Iran
Posted on 6/18/25 at 5:36 pm to LSUbest
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White Christian Nationalists
It's not as scary without the glowing red background.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 5:43 pm to Nosevens
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Wow what a rant. Nowhere was it said about taking free stuff. When this was done in the Marxist overthrow, in which America didn’t take Iran, times were more insecure world wide and resources were being sought while fighting against an ideology that certainly be worse for America. If a country was strong enough to conquer America would you expect otherwise? Obviously the career politicians with both hands out to MIC, Pharma and others will never allow Americans to get better but I damn well don’t want additional troubles due to Iran
Taking free stuff is what taxes are. You do understand the government doesn't produce anything, it can only TAKE from others right? That is what it does.
So when you say the government should do this, or the government should do that. What you are in reality saying is - the government should take resources from my neighbor, and if they do not give those resources, they should be put in prison or killed so that what I want to happen will. And they are selfish for not wanting to do it.
And what they don't take in taxes, they just print up which devalues the currency and steals your wealth anyway. It hurts the poor the most because they aren't the ones who get the newly printed money, the big corporations, NGO's and however serves the machine the most does.
Just because it's not presented to you by those who benefit from the theft in this way doesn't mean that's not what you are doing. If they told you the truth about it all, you'd likely not go along.
In the end, you are not only supporting additional troubles with Iran by creating them, you're also putting yourself and your fellow Americans deeper in poverty to do so.
It's not my fault for pointing out the truth.
This post was edited on 6/18/25 at 5:46 pm
Posted on 6/18/25 at 6:06 pm to 3down10
You have slipped way off topic and yes taxes are extremely bad. The grifts politicians as I mentioned earlier are the causes for that. Once they put rules into place then only 2 options left. You pick the one you want until enough shitt meets fan then you deal with the ones you can, which is now the legacy of children not fighting in Mideast because crazies in Iran that continues their crap. Allowing Israel to run the gauntlet now is better than my grandchildren later
Posted on 6/18/25 at 6:47 pm to Nosevens
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You have slipped way off topic and yes taxes are extremely bad. The grifts politicians as I mentioned earlier are the causes for that. Once they put rules into place then only 2 options left. You pick the one you want until enough shitt meets fan then you deal with the ones you can, which is now the legacy of children not fighting in Mideast because crazies in Iran that continues their crap. Allowing Israel to run the gauntlet now is better than my grandchildren later
It never works. You are only enslaving your grandchildren.
I have 10, you are enslaving them too because as I already pointed out, you believe in stealing the wealth of others for your goals. frick you.
This post was edited on 6/18/25 at 6:48 pm
Posted on 6/18/25 at 7:00 pm to sidewalkside
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And those in power get to make the rules.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 7:05 pm to 3down10
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If you want a preview of what you can expect in the future
Posted on 6/18/25 at 7:08 pm to LSUbest
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Why should a man interfere when a woman is getting curb stomped across the street? People that will turn the other way don't deserve to live in my neighborhood.
People that print money to solve their problems are fricked in the head.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 8:27 pm to 3down10
Conflating things as you do is exactly like what you say you are against. Things aren’t as simple as we live free in our own world as the saying goes freedom is not free
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