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re: It's time for the board to get behind DJT

Posted on 1/22/24 at 11:45 am to
Posted by Bourbonball5012
Member since Oct 2021
114 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 11:45 am to
Trumpsters: We won the election. It’s fair and square
Trumpsters: we lost, so there must be cheating
Fact is all Biden needs to do is win either Georgia, Arizona, Wisconsin, or Michigan, and he gets to 270. The odds are definitely not in your favor and won’t be surprised in the least bit that he wins all four of us by a greater margin than 2020. Whether or not, he wins all four or wins three, two, or one, but is still president you’ll just keep saying he cheated. Best of luck, and Id focus more in finding a candidate in 2028 who can speak to moderate republicans and independents or else you’ll continue to lose elections.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
154590 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 12:11 pm to
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try to ensure that he gets the right people in his ear pushing him in the right direction.


What’s the plan here to get that done?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125384 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 12:13 pm to
We could always cross our fingers while flinging epithets at people who have actual beliefs.

That seems to have been the plan so far.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
109674 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 12:14 pm to
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What’s the plan here to get that done?


I don't know.

Are you aware of Trump ever turning away a Washington Republican who wanted to offer him advice or counsel to push him in a certain direction?
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
154590 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 12:15 pm to
I wouldn’t know if he had done that or not.

I was just curious about how we were going to help trump with getting input from the right people.

Who are the right people? Maybe we can start there?
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
109674 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 12:19 pm to
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Who are the right people? Maybe we can start there?



I think you are touching on the biggest deficiency of the modern day Republican party. You can't pin that on one guy anymore than you can think there might be one guy who would be our ultimate savior from it.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26922 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 12:20 pm to
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Are you aware of Trump ever turning away a Washington Republican who wanted to offer him advice or counsel to push him in a certain direction?


Massie may want a word.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
154590 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 12:21 pm to
Ok.

But back to your idea of helping trump get the right people in his ear. Not a bad idea but it’s worth figuring out who those people are.

I’m not disparaging Trump with this.

I’m actually curious and think it’s a worthwhile discussion
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
119876 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 12:24 pm to
Trump denying federal relief while the country was shutting down was never going to happen.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
109674 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 12:26 pm to
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Ok.

But back to your idea of helping trump get the right people in his ear. Not a bad idea but it’s worth figuring out who those people are.

I’m not disparaging Trump with this.

I’m actually curious and think it’s a worthwhile discussion



See! Baby steps!

I'll ponder it and get back with you. I think he got at least as much good as bad advice last time, and drifted into both directions based on each. I'm not going to focus on one or the other being the most prominent, but I will realize it was always going to go better than with the other party in office pulling the strings on their puppet and no worse than a lot of GOP alternatives I can think of.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
21809 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 12:33 pm to
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Trump denying federal relief while the country was shutting down was never going to happen.

He's a big government moderate Democrat.

To your point - he could have done that if he had control of his CDC. The CDC was the launching pad of all the nonsense, and the rocket they fired was based on fake stats, new ways of assigning cause of death, and hiding all the science/data that went against the narrative that Covid was going to kill us all if we didn't give $100 billion to pension funds in blue cities and states.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26922 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 12:35 pm to
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Trump denying federal relief while the country was shutting down was never going to happen.


Yes, I know. Because he's never going to listen to someone who tells him to make a decision that will bring him too much heat. That's why he asked for even more "relief" than freaking Pelosi wanted, because he knew it would be popular to play Santa Claus after he (and plenty of others) pressured states to shut down.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125384 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 12:38 pm to
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Are you aware of Trump ever turning away a Washington Republican who wanted to offer him advice or counsel to push him in a certain direction?


I’m aware of him personally attacking a large percentage of Senators. Do you think that helps him get good counsel?
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
35426 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 12:47 pm to
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Oh I’m behind him. What choice do I have? But you realize he has zero chance of winning, right?

Context is everything.

In a fair and free election system, Trump wins in Reagan/Mondale fashion in 2024. He won in 2020 as well. The groundswell of hate towards the current fraudulently installed White House occupant and his administration has almost equalled the groundswell of hate for Trump in 2020, even with the MSM Propaganda Machine Complex and State-sponsored Narrative Control Apparatus all trying to sugarcoat and downplay the monumental disconnect between voters and the current regime.

Looking at the reality of a wholly corrupt and compromised election system though, you are most certainly correct. If the actual principled conservatives haven't put together a hell of a system to prevent frickery from happening the way it did in 2020, no candidate except for the Establishment candidate will be allowed to "win" the GE.

I still see the setup happening to make the switch from Biden to Newsom anyway. They can fraud their way into another Biden "victory" but it will be beyond suspicious and highly questionable even to the fully indoctrinated XiNN and MSDNC drones. It'll be much easier to cheat enough to install Gavin.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
154590 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 12:48 pm to
I’ll tell you a secret. I don’t hate trump. I’ve never met the man.

I just think Ron would be a better leader for this time.

We will have to ride with Trump instead.

Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26922 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 12:49 pm to
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In a fair and free election system, Trump wins in Reagan/Mondale fashion in 2024.


This is crazy talk. That was a 20 point race; no candidate is doing that in 2024.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
119876 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 12:50 pm to
That isn’t how DC has worked in what - a hundred years?
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
52095 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 1:23 pm to
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They’re just gonna move one more rung down the “anyone but trump” ladder until they pull the lever for a potato.

Maybe a few. Most will do as I do and hold their noses while voting for Trump.
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
35426 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 2:47 pm to
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This is crazy talk. That was a 20 point race; no candidate is doing that in 2024.

It was embellishment, sure. But nonetheless Trump would win in convincing fashion and it would be a significant enough margin to make challenges futile at best.

My sarcasm and penchant for exaggeration sometimes get the best of me. Of course I understand a Reagan/Mondale scenario will never play out again, what with how polarized America has become.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26922 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 3:05 pm to
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But nonetheless Trump would win in convincing fashion and it would be a significant enough margin to make challenges futile at best.


I think he could win (or lose) a convincing electoral victory, but unless something shifts with his negatives I just can't see a blowout in raw margins.
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