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re: It’s becoming clear there is no whistleblower

Posted on 10/1/19 at 9:56 am to
Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 10/1/19 at 9:56 am to
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there are negotiations that the WB will testify


Yes. The air quoted Whistleblower probably also has a “fear of flying” (quotations deliberate).
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
154731 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 9:56 am to
You think they are above this after the Russian asset lie?

Come on man.

They told you.

By any means necessary.

#resist

Coordinated messaging from DNC to DNC press hit squad.

It's all there to see in plain sight.
Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
9134 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 9:57 am to
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Now the whistleblower is claiming to have first hand knowledge, which is counter to the entire written complaint.



It doesn't have to be 100% first hand or second hand. The complaint suggests most of the info is second hand, and now the whistleblower says some is first hand. I mean, I know most and some are really ambiguous at this stage, but I don't think it's fair to say that the whistleblower is contradictory based on the language used.
Posted by Spirit Of Aggieland
Houston
Member since Aug 2011
4607 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 9:59 am to
Well, it it’s weekend at Bernie’s then we have a problem.

I think if it’s CIA then we also have a problem because that seems unsettling.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
154731 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 10:00 am to
First hand = there was a phone

Second hand = OMB, OMB, OMB

All it takes to be a whistle blower it seems.

If Rs had done this to King Hussein you people would be apoplectic.

But...
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 10:01 am to
And even if the “whistleblower” testified that doesn’t mean it isn’t an actor playing a role

No more far fetched than the rest of this horse shite
Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
9134 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 10:05 am to
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All it takes to be a whistle blower it seems.

If Rs had done this to King Hussein you people would be apoplectic.

But...


Do you think the whisteblower is contradictory or not? Forget everything else for a second
This post was edited on 10/1/19 at 10:06 am
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
76603 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 10:07 am to
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I think if it’s CIA then we also have a problem because that seems unsettling.


Really? Unsettling?
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
76603 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 10:09 am to
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Do you think the whisteblower is contradictory or not?
With literally no info as to what they are referring to as being first hand, no idea who this person is and if they even had access to anything, and the complaints statements of consistent 2nd hand sources prior to the now 180 degree change that appeared today, yes, yes I do think he is contradictory.
This post was edited on 10/1/19 at 10:12 am
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
36005 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 10:20 am to
......was he????? Because the complaint had another State guy on the phone and he has denied it, in fact he was not at the White House. I hope Pompeo tells them to all frick off and does not show up....and sends boxes of Popeyes Chicken with sides on the day of the hearing.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
36005 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 10:30 am to
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Now the whistleblower is claiming to have first hand knowledge, which is counter to the entire written complaint.


Scruff, the word just prior to the weekend is that this whistleblower was working in the White House and was a CIA person assigned there. I am going to wager that this person and others KNEW that Trump had migrated a lot of transcripts to the secure server to avoid glory hounding staff from accessing it and leaking it. Prior to the change in the rules/law, this person could not announce this stuff because he/she would have been arrested....dismissed. But once the law was changed, it cvould be used as a whistle blower thing. They ( Schiff & Co) had been waiting for this. If you read the complaint they had been preparing for this since February when Mueller & Co. were leaking out that the report may not be what Democrats, et al were looking for.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
154731 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 10:38 am to
Yes. He's contradicting the WH by suggesting something nefarious was done.

You are honest enough to admit that this is just another bullet fired from the left.

I used to hope Rs were above this. Now I want them to escalate. But they won't because they really aren't that different than Ds.

Frick all the lifetime pols on either side.

We are fools and are getting what we deserve.
This post was edited on 10/1/19 at 10:48 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466924 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 10:43 am to
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Yes. The report came from inside the White House. The Democrats don't secretly control the Trump administration.

oh you mean the same white house where wiretapping conversations were had by high ranking officials in the executive to spy on Trump and his admin? THAT THAT White House? how silly

Posted by DownSouthJukin
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Member since Jan 2014
31444 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 10:46 am to
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Alright, if it somehow is proven that there is no actual WB, and the whole thing was coordinated without someone initiating it, then I agree that would be yet another coup attempt.


Fixed. YW.
This post was edited on 10/1/19 at 10:48 am
Posted by RazorBroncs
Possesses the largest
Member since Sep 2013
15815 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 10:48 am to

I knew as soon as the whistleblower's report and the transcript of the actual phone call were released.

Bongino has once again done some explosive work on the subject, the whole thing is a big joke and a slap in the face to any non-Dem American. It's that blatant.

Add that to Schiff's antics at the hearings and his tweet that predates the whistleblower by 2 weeks but says the exact same info. It's clear he had already heard the same rumor back then, and then 2 weeks later a super-secret individual steps forward to blow the whistle and all of DC lights the torches?

Just read the whistleblower's 9 page report, it was clearly originally written with legal counsel and appears as more than one writer given the different styles throughout.

There's some frickery afoot for sure. Why would someone want to turn what was ACTUALLY said in the call into this fiasco? It's not like you can mishear a couple words and come up with the accusation. Hmmmmm...
Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
9134 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 10:57 am to
quote:

Yes. He's contradicting the WH by suggesting something nefarious was done.



That's not what we're talking about dude

quote:

You are honest enough to admit that this is just another bullet fired from the left.



The dishonesty is that you guys are saying it's contradictory to say most of your info is second hand but that some of it is not. That's not contradictory.

Trump is also not being honest about whether second hand info is permissible or whether some rule about that changed. Again, dishonesty.

This is the part where you try to pretend that two wrongs make a right and your side is being honest about everything.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
154731 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 10:59 am to
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The dishonesty is that you guys are saying it's contradictory to say most of your info is second hand but that some of it is not. That's not contradictory


I never said that so...



This is where you pretend that there is no coordinated effort to remove trump by any means necessary?
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62610 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 11:01 am to
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The report came from inside the White House.
It was 2nd hand hearsay. Good grief.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 11:02 am to
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Now the whistleblower is claiming to have first hand knowledge, which is counter to the entire written complaint


Isn't this the IG saying that the whistleblower did have at least some first hand information?
Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
9134 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 11:04 am to
quote:

I never said that so...



Well that's what the thread is about so

quote:

This is where you pretend that there is no coordinated effort to remove trump by any means necessary?



I don't think it's possible for the public to know what's going on now. Too many moving parts. One thing I do know is that Trump and Republicans are being completely dishonest about the whistleblower and the rules governing complaints. That is fact.
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