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re: It’s amazing to me how successfully the Left has normalized the unthinkable

Posted on 8/25/23 at 9:36 am to
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
14622 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 9:36 am to
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So your argument is that J6 protesters are on the same level as the 2020 BLM protesters?


Actually… if you will take 20 seconds to merely act intellectually honest… you will see the point is normalizing the behavior by not only local people.. but congressional people who supported riots and for “people’s voices to be heard”.

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When you see these “takeovers” poorly policed, it doesn’t encourage others?


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Your argument is that the J6 protestors were influenced by black males in urban areas to commit similar crimes?


Holy hell.. rub two brain cells together please. You really meant “others” meant J6 protestors and not other takeovers?? For fricks sake…
This post was edited on 8/25/23 at 9:41 am
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14933 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 9:37 am to
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That’s what the left is. Kneel, take direction, obey, turn to follow, then march.

That is laughable.

You alt-righties are here are a joke. You don't think any of that applies you.

Please anyone who thinks getting false electors to sign false affidavits saying they were elected as electors from their state so that the affidavits could be handed to Pence to upset the election is a criminal act please raise your hand.
Posted by TBPland
League City, TX
Member since Sep 2009
1490 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 9:37 am to
When the media floods the garbage 24/7 the weak minded absorb it, it’s pretty simple.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
54847 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 9:37 am to
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And used violence to gain entry.



Based on the videos I’ve seen, the majority were freely let in and led around by security….while other dumbasses were breaking into the window right next to an open door.

Why some resorted to breaking down a window while security was letting others in right next to them told me all I needed to know about this “violent insurrection”.
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
14622 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 9:38 am to
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I don't even know what you're referencing because you didn't include any information, but those people should be arrested.


It’s the violent liberal protestors in Nashville trying to breach the state house floor.

They weren’t though. Because again… it’s (D)ifferent.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
54847 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 9:41 am to
Not to mention the Uniparty denying Trumps request for additional security. It was great theater and millions fell for it, Trump included
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
14622 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 9:47 am to
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That is laughable. You alt-righties are here are a joke. You don't think any of that applies you.


Oh yea.. as you can clearly see… everyone here is in complete agreement on who to support for the next president and policy angles.

Meanwhile… your side still kneels at the feet of Biden in complete lock step. Completely. Un phased by him actually doing what you accused the last president of.

Switch [OFF] / on
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
61048 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 9:49 am to
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Anyone else still flabbergasted by it all?
Nope. Propaganda works. I encourage everyone to read Bernays books. They will show you just how easy manipulating the masses truly is. And you'll spot the techniques in use everywhere.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
452693 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 9:51 am to
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Actually… if you will take 20 seconds to merely act intellectually honest… you will see the point is normalizing the behavior

Which is why I asked my question. I will ask again: yes/no: your argument is that J6 protesters are on the same level as the 2020 BLM protesters?

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You really meant “others” meant J6 protestors and not other takeovers?

Isn't your argument that black males causing riots in urban areas in 2020 were the precedent used by the Patriots on January 6?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
452693 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 9:51 am to
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Based on the videos I’ve seen, the majority were freely let in and led around by security

After security was overwhelmed by violence

Posted by HVAU
Up over here
Member since Sep 2010
5051 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 9:51 am to
Define for me “the unthinkable”?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
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452693 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 9:52 am to
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They weren’t though. Because again… it’s (D)ifferent.

In a Republican state
Posted by FluffyBunnyFeet
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2014
2995 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 9:58 am to
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im really let down by republicans who are not making more noise about this.

Gaggle Of Pussies

Truth is even worse than that most likely. They're quiet because they've secured their positions in the new order.
Posted by TigerSprings
Southeast LA
Member since Jan 2019
2289 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 10:02 am to
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after they lost a very oddly run and counted election


FIFY
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
54847 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 10:15 am to
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After security was overwhelmed by violence



Is that why security actively led people into different parts of the capitol, including the infamous Shaman character that we now know was personally escorted to the Chambers by this “overwhelmed” security?

Sorry, but that narrative doesn’t fly, especially if you take into account Pelosi denying additional security. This was all clearly planned. Trump and his supporters fell for it, and now they get to sit in jails while BLM rioters are free, and in some cases, getting paid settlements from state governments (see NY).

I get it, you hate Trump. You are letting that hatred blind you to the obvious.
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
55749 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 10:34 am to
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I never used the "I-word".


No, but your stance is the exact same as those who do. At that point, what's the difference?

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It's a big bigger of a threat to Congress than riots protesting Trump well clear of Congress.


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And those riots were literally outside of Congress, leading to a breach of Congress after violently clashing with capitol security.



So it all depends on how threatened Congress feels? It's not as big a deal to destroy private buildings and kill private citizens, but inconveniencing members of Congress cross a line?

How long does the First Amendment last with that sort of subjectivity?
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 10:35 am to
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Anyone else still flabbergasted by it all?
You seem to be upset at the very notion of indicting a former POTUS, and you seem to be cloaking that visceral feeling in outrage that anyone is accepting those indictments.

I really are looking at two different classes of folks, here.

Sure, there are the rabid Dems, just gleefully delighted at the prospect of Trump sitting in prison because he is Trump.

But there are also the more-thoughtful folks who just do not think that anyone ... even a former POTUS ... is above the law.

I am in the latter group. A former president is NOT a God-Emperor. For us, any credible allegations need to be addressed, regardless of his former office.

I am not old-enough to remember Nixon, but in some ways I think it might have been better if Ford had NOT pardoned him (though I understand why he did so). The allegations of Nixon's transgressions were far more egregious than Trump's, and it certainly would have been better to sort-out these issues on a more clear-cut case. (Most of the allegations against Trump seem pretty thin, though the DC indictment looks fairly solid).
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
452693 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 10:37 am to
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after they lost a very oddly run and counted election

I won't argue with that
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
452693 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 10:41 am to
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No, but your stance is the exact same as those who do. At that point, what's the difference?

There is a huge legal difference and change in implied response, which somewhat answers OP's questions.

And "Exact"? I said they protested (which became rioted) to disrupt a ceremonial Congressional transfer of the Presidency. What is incorrect about that statement?

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So it all depends on how threatened Congress feels?

In terms of national/governmental/legal significance? Yes. Why wouldn't it?

Riots have happened for a long time in the US. Hell, they occurred in this area before it was the US and was British colonies. There is nothing novel or "unthinkable" about riots.

What happened on January 6 probably hasn't ever happened, and if it has, it was a long fricking time ago.

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It's not as big a deal to destroy private buildings and kill private citizens, but inconveniencing members of Congress cross a line?

Do you think a random drug dealer killing another in Chicago is the same thing as a person killing the President?

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How long does the First Amendment last with that sort of subjectivity?

What does the 1A have to do with rioting?
Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
7619 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 10:57 am to
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More amazing to me is that our worthless Republican representatives are just spinning their wheels. If they can't find some way to quash this shite, or to at least signal (with teeth) there will be some repercussions, then why do we need them at all? What's the difference between opposition that does nothing whatsoever, and opposition that barely stands in the way?


This above all is why we are where we are
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