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re: It’s a civil violation.

Posted on 1/30/25 at 7:56 am to
Posted by Chazreinhold
Utah
Member since Oct 2020
7243 posts
Posted on 1/30/25 at 7:56 am to
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I don't really care, Margaret. I don't want this person in my country.


That's the only acceptable response. No dialogue is necessary.


This is my Position as well.
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
67598 posts
Posted on 1/30/25 at 7:59 am to
Not everything that’s “illegal” violates a criminal statute. It’s “illegal” to breach a contract, but that doesn’t make it criminal.
Posted by Chazreinhold
Utah
Member since Oct 2020
7243 posts
Posted on 1/30/25 at 8:00 am to
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Being in the US undocumented is not a crime in & of itself.


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lol imagine going through life being this dumb


This quote here is what prompted me to post.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
18937 posts
Posted on 1/30/25 at 8:04 am to
The penalty for the infraction is still deportation. Don't care how LWNJ's spin it.
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
19452 posts
Posted on 1/30/25 at 8:08 am to
Ok. It's Civil. Fine is 1 million. Come back when you can pay it.
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
33412 posts
Posted on 1/30/25 at 8:41 am to
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Not that being in a foreign country without permission should be the same thing

Try that in China, Russia, N. Korea, Iran and get back to us

Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
17857 posts
Posted on 1/30/25 at 8:42 am to
Stop crying about the kiddos at the border if you dont give a frick about them in the womb.

Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
67598 posts
Posted on 1/30/25 at 8:43 am to
You suck at analogy…
Posted by Mushroom1968
Member since Jun 2023
5327 posts
Posted on 1/30/25 at 8:45 am to
VOR

Not only do you hate minorities b/c of the color of their skin, but you also hate babies. You don't have much cred anywhere.
Posted by Pezzo
Member since Aug 2020
2876 posts
Posted on 1/30/25 at 8:48 am to
Democrats love twisting words and meanings. they love to twist the language of laws to make them seem ambiguous.
Posted by GeauxGriff
Member since Dec 2022
44 posts
Posted on 1/30/25 at 9:05 am to
Don’t be gaslit. If your definition of “crime” is the possibility of imprisonment rather than merely a “civil” monetary fine, the improper entry into the USA by an alien, the fraudulent use of marriage to avoid immigration laws, and the establishment of a commercial enterprise to avoid immigration laws all have both criminal and civil penalties under 8 USC 1325.

Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
33412 posts
Posted on 1/30/25 at 9:06 am to
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It’s “illegal” to breach a contract,

uh, a contract is between two entities that have 'standing' to even enter into that agreement

An illegal has no standing to enter into this country, all by their lonesome. There is no agreement

Try another analogy. This one sucks
Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
7938 posts
Posted on 1/30/25 at 9:08 am to
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Not everything that’s “illegal” violates a criminal statute. It’s “illegal” to breach a contract, but that doesn’t make it criminal.


I seriously doubt you could be more ignorant if you put more effort into it. You are beyond red redemption

It is not illegal to breach a contract
Posted by jake wade
North LA
Member since Oct 2007
2343 posts
Posted on 1/30/25 at 9:14 am to
I saw where they said Trump is only deporting brown people.
Posted by Don Quixote
Member since May 2023
4220 posts
Posted on 1/30/25 at 9:14 am to
sophistry

OK then, I didn't kill the burglar who broke into my home I inserted a lead slug into his chest and the lack of blood flow to his brain is what actually killed him not me
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
39768 posts
Posted on 1/30/25 at 9:38 am to
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Being in the US undocumented is not a crime in & of itself.


It is.

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that’s not all illegal immigrants.


Yes it is, it is in the name.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
21425 posts
Posted on 1/30/25 at 9:42 am to
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What is it with the people saying crossing the Border is just a Civil Violation?



I think they are just saying that overstaying a VISA is a civil violation. That may very well be true.
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
38767 posts
Posted on 1/30/25 at 9:44 am to
Global warming morphed into climate change.


That’s how they do it. They change nomenclatures all the time.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
39768 posts
Posted on 1/30/25 at 9:45 am to
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It’s “illegal” to breach a contract


You sure on that one?

It is not Illegal at all or even "illegal".

Since they aren't called "Illegal" Immigrants, your point is even less valid. Big swing and a miss.
This post was edited on 1/30/25 at 9:54 am
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
75404 posts
Posted on 1/30/25 at 9:49 am to
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My understanding , It is not a Civil Penalty to evade Border Officials and Enter the Country Illegally . That is a crime.

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