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re: Israel says U.S. can’t move forward with any Saudi deal that doesn’t include them

Posted on 5/9/25 at 6:07 pm to
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
17000 posts
Posted on 5/9/25 at 6:07 pm to
Everyone take note: this is what actual foreign interference looks like.

Whatever you think about Israel vs Hamas, why the hell do they get to tell us what our foreign policy will be while openly manipulating our senate?

Can anyone on the right or left explain why this is ok?
Posted by TIGERVATO
Spring, TX.
Member since Jan 2008
1732 posts
Posted on 5/9/25 at 6:08 pm to
APAC owns more than half our people in DC. Israel runs our country through our dirty politicians.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
165399 posts
Posted on 5/9/25 at 6:08 pm to
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Israel is tiny country under threat of existence day and night from the Muslim horde hell bent on its eradication.


I'm struggling to see why I should give a frick
Posted by YungBuck
Mandeville
Member since Dec 2017
2573 posts
Posted on 5/9/25 at 6:11 pm to
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Okay, so you are going to base your entire argument on a cut and paste? Stay woke please, and leave this room for the grown folk…


No, actually my personal argument is based off the fact Israel MURDERED sailors on the USS Liberty, introduced modern day terrorism to the world to push Palestinians and British out, has been funding terrorism in the form of Hamas/Taliban/Al-Qaeda, and have abused US aid for decades without providing an ounce of assistance when they say they will.

So yeah, I’m done supporting Israel. They can have their sovereignty, but don’t use my tax dollars for it
This post was edited on 5/9/25 at 6:13 pm
Posted by DByrd2
Fredericksburg, VA
Member since Jun 2008
9498 posts
Posted on 5/9/25 at 6:16 pm to
Anyone else that was wondering why Trump cut ties with Netanyahu earlier this week?

This is Trump delivering on uprooting the deep state. Pam Bondi talking about pedo tapes/Epstein, the administration clearly exploring nuclear conversations with SA, Trump and Bibi having a souring, and now Israel saying we need consent… hmmm!

Sounds to me like Trump is putting Israel in a position where they may end up outing some of our public figures via blackmail.

Daddy Trump says (Thank you… more please!)
Posted by BarberitosDawg
Lee County Florida across causeway
Member since Oct 2013
12077 posts
Posted on 5/9/25 at 6:16 pm to
Israël is making much progress you can comment on the new thread I just made friend?
Posted by YungBuck
Mandeville
Member since Dec 2017
2573 posts
Posted on 5/9/25 at 6:17 pm to
Just saw it, good for them. I couldn’t give two fricks they killed a terrorist. Don’t use my tax dollars on it.

You failed to respond to my previous statement
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
47307 posts
Posted on 5/9/25 at 6:18 pm to
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Are you Israel cock gobblers waking up now?

I think Israel's US lobby is too strong, but the headline is fake news. They simply expressed an opinion that Trump did not have the votes. If the reason he doesn't is due to the Israeli lobby (it is) then we need to fix that.
Posted by BlackPawnMartyr
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2010
15871 posts
Posted on 5/9/25 at 6:21 pm to
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Time to list AIPAC and get them out of American politics. No Congressman/woman should have an Israeli handler


Well said, very true.
Posted by BarberitosDawg
Lee County Florida across causeway
Member since Oct 2013
12077 posts
Posted on 5/9/25 at 6:26 pm to
I will, friendly fire is a bitch. I lost friends from it and it has always happened in hostlile évitements..

That’s a dark moment but has been fully investigated

Has nothing to do with latest events on the whole front.

If that sounds curt it is because the world is curt.

Hope this helps your healing?
Posted by YungBuck
Mandeville
Member since Dec 2017
2573 posts
Posted on 5/9/25 at 6:35 pm to
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I will, friendly fire is a bitch. I lost friends from it and it has always happened in hostlile évitements..


Why do survivors then conclude it was deliberate? Yes friendly fire happens, but not to that scale.

Dean Rusk even said,
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I was never satisfied with the Israeli explanation. Their sustained attack to disable and sink Liberty precluded an assault by accident or some trigger-happy local commander. Through diplomatic channels we refused to accept their explanations. I didn't believe them then, and I don't believe them to this day. The attack was outrageous


And yes this is 50+ years ago, but again why do we need to continue to give them taxpayer $$ when they renege on their promises to assist in our endeavors
This post was edited on 5/9/25 at 6:37 pm
Posted by BarberitosDawg
Lee County Florida across causeway
Member since Oct 2013
12077 posts
Posted on 5/9/25 at 6:38 pm to
Dean Rusk and you have some common issues to address. The world has moved on from that unfortunate incident.

May I suggest therapy?
Posted by YungBuck
Mandeville
Member since Dec 2017
2573 posts
Posted on 5/9/25 at 6:39 pm to
Acting like an arse rather than having a constructive conversation shows your true colors. Have a great night
Posted by bamadontcare
Member since Jun 2013
3228 posts
Posted on 5/9/25 at 6:44 pm to
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Anyone else that was wondering why Trump cut ties with Netanyahu earlier this week?


Because we are saving Israel for last?
Posted by Von
Wichita Falls, TX
Member since Feb 2019
2644 posts
Posted on 5/9/25 at 6:45 pm to
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as Israel is symbiotic with the United States.

.. holy shite.. you're confusing symbiote and parasite.
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their existence is entwined with

That's due to AIPAC and our shitty politicians who sell us out. We the people and our republic as a whole gain absolutely nothing from our greatest ally. That region would be much more peaceful if Israel weren't using the US and the MIC to stir shite up for their benefit.
Posted by Murph4HOF
A-T-L-A-N-T-A (that's where I stay)
Member since Sep 2019
15470 posts
Posted on 5/9/25 at 6:46 pm to
Why shouldn't the greatest ally in the history of alliances have a say so in a bilateral deal that doesn't involve them?

I feel they've paid enough money to our elected officials and have enough blackmail material on them where Our Greatest Ally should not just have a say so, but negotiate the deal themselves, and then the Senate rapidly approve of whatever treaty Our Greatest Ally makes for us and any other country.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
20856 posts
Posted on 5/9/25 at 6:46 pm to
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We have an investment in Israeli operations as a whole. You need to learn to understand that as Israel is symbiotic with the United States.

You can support the defense of Israel and see as ridiculous and unhealthy the level of power they wield in our government at the same time. AIPAC is not a friend of the average American.
Posted by jrodLSUke
Premium
Member since Jan 2011
24614 posts
Posted on 5/9/25 at 6:48 pm to
1 Israeli “official”? The media is manipulating division and some of you fall for it.
Posted by BarberitosDawg
Lee County Florida across causeway
Member since Oct 2013
12077 posts
Posted on 5/9/25 at 6:49 pm to
Sir, please stop posting gibberish and comprise a measured post pleas, for the sanitary of the forum members if nothing else!
This is Tiger Droppings not redit…
Posted by mudshuvl05
Member since Nov 2023
1778 posts
Posted on 5/9/25 at 6:54 pm to
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Israel says U.S. can’t move forward with any Saudi deal that doesn’t include them
Muh, greatest ally.

The President Trump absolutists will call this a win just like they call people who protest again Israel as being worthy of going on a list and/or being jailed — isn't freedom great folks, we have the best freedom don't we?

Go burn an American flag and Democrats and Republicans will call it wrong, but a constitutional right.

Go burn an Israeli flag and BOTH they and the Scofield Bible protestants will call you an antisemite, put you in jail and on a list, and destroy your career.

But that's enough Gnoticing for now mods, I digress, I swear it.
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