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quote:not according to Forbes.
Diesel production remains the same
One of the reasons attributed was shuttering refineries.
quote:That would be true in the Spring. The reason for concern is that the level should be much higher, since demand drops in October.
If it is real then it means the economy is booming and 18 wheelers are busier than normal
Read my Forbes link in previous post
re: Is this potential Diesel Fuel Shortage Real?Posted by Rufus T Firefly on 10/31/22 at 10:19 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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I'd wait until everyone is good and freaked out about costs and shortages and starts dumping theirs for gassers.
funny you should say that, and was thinking the same, I've noticed prices dropping lately so we're heading that direction
re: Is this potential Diesel Fuel Shortage Real?Posted by Tigers2010a 
on 10/31/22 at 10:20 am to The007
on 10/31/22 at 10:20 am to The007Over the last year, I keep my gas tanks full out of general principle. I also stock up on certain commodities. I no longer trust the stability of society.
re: Is this potential Diesel Fuel Shortage Real?Posted by omegaman66 on 10/31/22 at 10:24 am to TBoy
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People lie, especially right wingers.
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frick you
You might be right that the shortage thing is wrong and over hyped. But the above comment suggesting the right lies more hand the left is asinine.
re: Is this potential Diesel Fuel Shortage Real?Posted by alphaandomega 
on 10/31/22 at 10:45 am to The Maj
on 10/31/22 at 10:45 am to The Majquote:
Saw a lot of farmers filling up with off-road from local stores Saturday and Sunday...
Our harvest is about over. Got some cover crops going in now.
Farmers should be ok. Trains and truckers are the ones we need to watch out for.
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This is correct.
Unlike the SFR, which is being drawn down and not replenished, this is the inventory should all production of diesel stop at this moment (which is not happening).
Still, the inventory is well below the norm, which should be concerning.
And normal inventory is normal for a reason. Suppliers don't want to keep more inventory on hand than normal.
I do think we will be able to handle this blip however.
re: Is this potential Diesel Fuel Shortage Real?Posted by DisplacedBuckeye 
on 10/31/22 at 11:34 am to Rufus T Firefly
on 10/31/22 at 11:34 am to Rufus T Fireflyquote:
funny you should say that, and was thinking the same, I've noticed prices dropping lately so we're heading that direction
I've been waiting for the new design on a Ram 3500, but might have to go ahead with a 2023 order if prices start looking better.
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Having 23 or 25 days of inventory doesn't mean anyone is running out.
Depends on how fast we're refining it in relation to demand. If we're only refining half of what we need on a daily basis, then we could eat up that 25 day inventory pretty quickly.
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re: Is this potential Diesel Fuel Shortage Real?Posted by Rufus T Firefly on 10/31/22 at 11:56 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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I've been waiting for the new design on a Ram 3500, but might have to go ahead with a 2023 order if prices start looking better.
I'm looking at used 5.9's and that's where I'm seeing the prices soften a bit lately, but I'd expect your new prices to drop like a rock
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It's an absolute farking lie. Having 23 or 25 days of inventory doesn't mean anyone is running out. Diesel is being produced every day. What it means is if not a single drop is produced, we have a 23 or whatever day supply. It DOES NOT MEAN that we are running out of diesel. People lie, especially right wingers. People who can't recognize the lie, again typically right wingers, are doomed to repeat it and look stupid for doing so.
You are correct we won’t run out
Instead prices will rise high enough that most can’t afford so there will still be available supply
re: Is this potential Diesel Fuel Shortage Real?Posted by CleverUserName 
on 10/31/22 at 1:20 pm to TBoy
on 10/31/22 at 1:20 pm to TBoyquote:
People lie, especially right wingers. People who can't recognize the lie, again typically right wingers, are doomed to repeat it and look stupid for doing so
What did Biden say the price of fuel was the day he took office?
I guess that refining production, stocks in tanks farms and export reports don't jive with forbes.
That being said, home heating oil which is nothing but offroad diesel with under 500PPM sulfur instead of ULSD may be the real issue due there won't be any Russian LNG for New England this year. There are no US flagged LNG carriers to transport from US to US ports. In the past all gas turbines in papermills in N.E. had dual fuel, diesel/natural gas burners
That being said, home heating oil which is nothing but offroad diesel with under 500PPM sulfur instead of ULSD may be the real issue due there won't be any Russian LNG for New England this year. There are no US flagged LNG carriers to transport from US to US ports. In the past all gas turbines in papermills in N.E. had dual fuel, diesel/natural gas burners
re: Is this potential Diesel Fuel Shortage Real?Posted by CitizenK 
on 10/31/22 at 1:55 pm to MadtownTiger
on 10/31/22 at 1:55 pm to MadtownTigerIt's actually accurate due the amounts are supplied by the refining industry
quote:Forbes is going off the EIA numbers, which are the official numbers the government goes off.
I guess that refining production, stocks in tanks farms and export reports don't jive with forbes.
EIA has a rough history with crude production numbers, but refined and distillates are generally dead on
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