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re: Is this potential Diesel Fuel Shortage Real?Posted by Miketheseventh
on 10/31/22 at 6:29 pm to The007

This was a link from earlier This was the first I had heard about the shortage
re: Is this potential Diesel Fuel Shortage Real?Posted by Load Toad
on 10/31/22 at 6:34 pm to Miketheseventh


The WH press secretary was asked about this situation. They didn't give a straight answer. The upper part of nation might spent 5k on heating oil this winter. Natural gas will increase to 28%. There is shortage on energy products.
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re: Is this potential Diesel Fuel Shortage Real?Posted by AggieHank86
on 10/31/22 at 6:53 pm to The007

quote:no
Is this potential Diesel Fuel Shortage Real?
re: Is this potential Diesel Fuel Shortage Real?Posted by Errerrerrwere
on 10/31/22 at 8:30 pm to Roaad

quote:
CitizenK
Only took him several hours to find his talking point online

He also believes that Putin is the cause for this if true.
This post was edited on 10/31 at 8:31 pm
Yes... IF:
A) you define "shortage" as levels being lower than normal or historically.
B) you realize that it doesn't become a "real shortage", i.e. not available where needed the most unless something causes disruptions in the production (e.g. gulf coast hurricane).
So it is real by the (a) definition of a shortage. It isn't a real problem unless something derails production.
Prices are rising, as opposed to spiking, indicating the market is baking the low levels of supply into the cake. Production levels are flat or on a slight decline while demand has increased significantly. It is a simple mass balance over, right now, a short period of time. The longer the time those two trends continue (and they are never indefinite) the bigger the problem will become and the more prices will rise.
If prices spike, large amount in short period of time, then it is an indication we're entering into a true shortage, in the conventional definition we're all familiar with, where availability becomes more of an issue than price.
A) you define "shortage" as levels being lower than normal or historically.
B) you realize that it doesn't become a "real shortage", i.e. not available where needed the most unless something causes disruptions in the production (e.g. gulf coast hurricane).
So it is real by the (a) definition of a shortage. It isn't a real problem unless something derails production.
Prices are rising, as opposed to spiking, indicating the market is baking the low levels of supply into the cake. Production levels are flat or on a slight decline while demand has increased significantly. It is a simple mass balance over, right now, a short period of time. The longer the time those two trends continue (and they are never indefinite) the bigger the problem will become and the more prices will rise.
If prices spike, large amount in short period of time, then it is an indication we're entering into a true shortage, in the conventional definition we're all familiar with, where availability becomes more of an issue than price.
re: Is this potential Diesel Fuel Shortage Real?Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
on 11/1/22 at 8:38 am to momentoftruth87

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Don’t think military will have an issue. Regular consumers, damn right.
Military will have to move to the front of the supply line but they typically get their supplies from the same evil oil companies consumers due.
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