re: Is there such thing as a basic human right?

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It’s also safe to say that US has different ideas about human rights than other Western countries.

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We're brainwashed into giving up the rights we have and fighting like hell to make sure we don't end up with more rights

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And then if you could at least make the suggestion about how the United States could implement these same benefits in a culture that differs greatly


Why would you ask me to do this? Owl, this is why I skip your posts sometimes. You are giving me assignments based on your own misinterpretations of my posts.

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How is it a misinterpretation i'm simply asking questions

okay I acknowledge that it is true that these benefits are provided in other countries i'm asking you how could we then do that in America?


You suggesting that it might be nice if everybody had free candy and party hats and we could all go to sleep at night wrapped up in a comfy blanket cuddled up to a Unicorn o k I agree that would be nice how do we do that?


Claiming that because our country does not provide those benefits and that its
would be nice does not make our country wrong

we are dealing with a different demographic different obligations,, different challenges .
if we were spending less money protecting /providing to other country in the world with food military protection maybe we could provide better benefits to our citizens
But then those countries would have to pick up the slack where we have been footing the bill . Even Bono said that aides had been nearly eradicated in Africa thanks to an American President

And I believe you have admitted that you were a social worker at one time and stopped doing that
if it's not too personal question may I ask you while you stopped


Could it have been that the people that want the benefits were unreasonable and not making the effort themselves to improve their situation in life

Those are questions not misinterpretations i'm asking you questions you have the right to ignore me

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Just from all the clips I've seen

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If you turn off the TV or stop scrolling social media - how many protests do you see? How much violence do you witness with your own two eyes in person?

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Am I supposed to defend your assumption here? Why even write that?

Who I vote doesn't have any bearing on whether or not basic human rights exist.

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It's a simple question
I didn't ask who you sleep with?


No your vote doesnt uh have any bearing on human rights
you might be the first liberal to admit that

But this is a discussion which I'm not aware I mean you started the thread so if you want to make the rule that I'm not allowed to ask questions please state that in the OP and I will respect your request but until you absolutely refuse to engage in a dialog what is wrong with me asking questions

So this is the political talk board and you're making claims that as I interpret our country is failing because we don't provide certain benefits to our citizens or everybody that is here legally or illegally because that would affect the particulars?


Now I provided even a broader number of countries beside Sweden it is in northern Europe Finland,The Netherlands .
Even Germany provides housing to a degree that other Western countries don't but much of that is directed at citizens that were in East Germany ,,accounting for their non access to building personal wealth,
But forgive me I digress it really doesn't matter what countries are doing it I have acknowledged that those benefits are granted to citizens in some countries,
Will you then also acknowledge that those countries have very different demographics and challenges and population numbers than the United States and that perhaps that makes a difference?


And to be fair I acknowledge that you believe that those are human rights I did not ask only for political points I included moral or ethical and for you to back that up with some sort of reference or reasoning

You are smart enough to at least start trying to make an argument that Christ advocated for these human rights that you're asking for

But then John the Baptist who had to come before Jesus and told the world that Jesus was the son of God
lived as a hermit in a cave and Jesus didn't tell anybody to provide a home for him

Right to life

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Universal healthcare, tuition-free higher education, robust public transportation, etc etc

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Wait, are you saying universal healthcare and a city bus are rights???

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Wait, are you saying universal healthcare and a city bus are rights???

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In some countries, absolutely.

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We all know you have a soft spot for the homeless, but this is ridiculous.

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I have an extremely soft spot for the homeless. But this idea is just mentally retarded. There is no way you could logic your way through and come out the other side thinking housing was a right

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How much violence do you witness with your own two eyes in person?

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Those of us who've worked trauma have seen far more than our share. It's heartbreaking.