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re: Is there a solution for mass shootings going forward?
Posted on 5/21/18 at 5:33 pm to DEG
Posted on 5/21/18 at 5:33 pm to DEG
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Want me to use crayons? Here goes: Tammy teacher is packing heat. Harry headcase is pissed about his grade, his girlfriend or his life in general and easily overtakes Tammy teacher and arms himself. Harry Headcase otherwise wouldn’t have easy access to a gun but thanks to the “teachers packing heat” rule, he now does.
You used the wrong crayons. Let’s try this color:
Kid shows up to shoot other kids praying around a flagpole. Assistant principal runs a couple hundred yards off campus to retrieve his firearm, then runs a couple hundred yards back to the scene where he brandishes his weapon, points at the shooter and says “STOP.” The shooter complies, limiting the number of casualties. That happened at Pearl High School. Had the Assistant Principal had the freedom to have his weapon with him, casualties would have been further limited, if not eliminated.
But by all means, continue to scream into the sky and leave insulting comments. Surely you’ll win one eventually.
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Posted on 5/21/18 at 5:35 pm to Pelican fan99
You realize how many countries are liberal and not “Christian” and don’t have this problem. Christ has nothing to do with this and neither do “liberals”.
Posted on 5/21/18 at 5:36 pm to DEG
these shooters are mind controlled,some shootings are staged nobody dies actors doing drills.'all part of an agenda to have middle class begging to do away with the 2nd amendment'.(bill cooper)If the 2nd were done away with we will never see another mass shooting.on to the next agenda.blee dat
Posted on 5/21/18 at 5:36 pm to FooManChoo
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Does Tammy Teacher have the gun holstered on her body when Harry Headcase tries to get it from her?
She normally does but she had a tough morning with a sick kid and inattentive husband so she just put it in he purse today or the car or her desk.
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Brave Barney and Courageous Christopher tackle Harry Headcase while Snitching Suzie runs to get the resource officer.
Plausible. Fair point, but it assumes that everything goes as it should multiplied by every teacher allowed to carry a gun.
Posted on 5/21/18 at 5:36 pm to NHTigerFan
quote:Other countries don't have the guns to do it. They also have no ability to fight off the encroaching of liberties that happens day by day in those countries.
You realize how many countries are liberal and not “Christian” and don’t have this problem. Christ has nothing to do with this and neither do “liberals”
And yes, the problem with evil is a spiritual one. You're just arguing about the tools used.
Posted on 5/21/18 at 5:39 pm to DEG
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Want me to use crayons? Here goes:
Tammy teacher is packing heat. Harry headcase is pissed about his grade, his girlfriend or his life in general and easily overtakes Tammy teacher and arms himself. Harry Headcase otherwise wouldn’t have easy access to a gun but thanks to the “teachers packing heat” rule, he now does.
Ok,let's say your scenario plays out,and harry gets Tammy's pink .380.
How much damage can harry do,before he runs out of ammo Coach Killa,comes running with his .44 magnum and sends Harry to Hell?
This post was edited on 5/21/18 at 5:44 pm
Posted on 5/21/18 at 5:40 pm to BrookhavenBengal
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continue to scream into the sky
You’re lazy.
I’m a conservative who thinks it’s time to take an honest look at our gun laws. Not sure why that has me screaming at the sky. But you do you.
Posted on 5/21/18 at 5:40 pm to FooManChoo
quote:Mentally ill people aren't fighting a spiritual evil. They are fighting mental illness.
And yes, the problem with evil is a spiritual one.
Posted on 5/21/18 at 5:41 pm to Lsupimp
quote:Absolutely.
You know, I bet there were no school shootings in North Korea last year. I know that sounds absurd, but it demonstrates the essential tension of living in a free country. Many many more free people will make really really bad decisions in a free country .
Not to mention that tripling a country's population in less than a century also means tripling the number of people capable of making those really really bad decisions.
quote:That last part may no longer be true. Case in point:
And most people are willing to take their chances with the freedom than without.
Posted on 5/21/18 at 5:41 pm to DEG
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Plausible. Fair point, but it assumes that everything goes as it should multiplied by every teacher allowed to carry a gun.
And your painting assumes that everything goes haywire. Why? My contention is that the simple act of publicly eliminating “gun free zones” will, all by itself, drastically lessen the occurrences of mass shootings...especially at schools. Bad guys are opportunists. They prefer the odds to be stacked in their favor.
Posted on 5/21/18 at 5:41 pm to DEG
quote:I assume the school had a protocol about either having firearms secured on the body of the teacher or locked securely in a safe of some kind. If not, the school was irresponsible. If so, the teacher was irresponsible. Either way, the problem wasn't the gun in that scenario.
She normally does but she had a tough morning with a sick kid and inattentive husband so she just put it in he purse today or the car or her desk.
quote:Yeah, it does assume that. Not many people have the balls to attack a teacher they know is armed. It's almost a guaranteed suicide.
Plausible. Fair point, but it assumes that everything goes as it should multiplied by every teacher allowed to carry a gun
If the other students know the teacher is armed and headcase is trying to get it from him/her, they will be inclined to step in or run away to save themselves. Either way, limited damage.
Meanwhile... actual threats who plan on targeting soft targets (like gun-free zones) will be less likely to attempt it because it's not worth it.
Posted on 5/21/18 at 5:42 pm to Yak
quote:You clearly don't understand the concept of total depravity
Mentally ill people aren't fighting a spiritual evil. They are fighting mental illness.
Posted on 5/21/18 at 5:42 pm to auggie
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How much damage can harry do
Guess that depends on who he kills. If it’s your kid or wife, that probably feels like a lot of damage.
Posted on 5/21/18 at 5:43 pm to DEG
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You’re lazy. I’m a conservative who thinks it’s time to take an honest look at our gun laws. Not sure why that has me screaming at the sky. But you do you.
You’re projecting. Which means it’s not very likely you’re conservative.
Posted on 5/21/18 at 5:45 pm to FooManChoo
quote:I understand it, but christian theology isnt the end all be all of things
You clearly don't understand the concept of total depravity
Posted on 5/21/18 at 5:48 pm to Yak
quote:If it's true, then it is.
I understand it, but christian theology isnt the end all be all of things
Posted on 5/21/18 at 5:50 pm to DEG
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Guess that depends on who he kills. If it’s your kid or wife, that probably feels like a lot of damage.
There would be almost 0% chance of that happening,so I'm not too worried about it much.
The chance that Harry is driving a car,and texting and driving,and possibly hurting them though,that's a real possibility.
That one scares me.
Posted on 5/21/18 at 5:57 pm to auggie
Are you comparing murder to a car accident?
Posted on 5/21/18 at 6:00 pm to FooManChoo
quote:
If it's true, then it is.
But it’s not
Posted on 5/21/18 at 6:03 pm to BlackHelicopterPilot
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Stop coddling "pussies" and acting as if "bullying" is the most horrific thing. I believe our insistence that no own is "offended" creates MUCH GREATER reaction from the offended. We are told it is horrible. So, when someone is treated "horribly" they lash out. I'm not explaining it well. But, I think trying to live germ-free makes us weaker and when exposed to germs, we get more sick than we should.
You are on it, BH...as usual. Grievance is a basic psychology necessary in Marxist Ideology; of the which has become a mainstay in the Popular Culture and the Progressive hegemony. I heard this Shooter was rejected in some way by one of His female peers; wary lady...She smelled a rat, and was right. Though She may have paid with Her life.
Whatever we tolerate...we encourage more of. The Shooters are sick, narcissistic and their brains are immature and ripe for trouble; and "pussies" as described. Most believe that they will be found sympathetic, if they live. And there is empathy/sympathy in the minds of many (also sick or misguided); witness the Florida shooting.
Bottom line. More security means less freedom. Assure that the unbridled wrath of the truly aggrieved will be unleashed on the cowardly shooters...and the numbers will drop way down. Of course, that is problematic in and of itself, with perhaps pernicious unintended (spiritual) consequences.
Earth 2018.
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